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Update to Git changes the default of init.defaultBranch to main

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Re: Update to Git changes the default of init.defaultBranch to main

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Post by zeroimpl »

umvi wrote: post #9

Sigh... sad to see the tech community bullied into compliance over a non-issue by political correctness activists. It's not really that big of a deal (and in some ways "main" is better anyway because it's 2 characters shorter), it's just the principle of the thing that bothers me. I would rather see projects and people stand their ground instead of caving to pressure anytime a twitter mob comes along.

I'm of the perspective that people arguing against these changes are bullying. The changes are easy to make, represent goodwill and inclusivity, and yet people with nothing to gain or lose are saying no. That's bullying.

Re: Update to Git changes the default of init.defaultBranch to main

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Post by nicbou »

All political correctness talk aside, "main" is a much better name for the main branch.

There was a similar debate about blacklist and whitelist, and I much prefer the recommended alternative: blocklist and allowlist.

The meanings if those new terms are self-evident.

Re: Update to Git changes the default of init.defaultBranch to main

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Post by salawat »

mikepurvis wrote: post #43
steviedotboston wrote: post #21

I've long felt that "trunk" is a much better name than "master" or "main".

I dunno, I associate "trunk" very strongly with svn. My company's internal repos usually use "devel" as our default branch, but that's partly a convention inherited from the ROS ecosystem where the different main releases have a codename and fixes get patched between branches with names like jade-devel, kinetic-devel, lunar-devel, etc.

I hear trunk and think telephony. SVN was always odd in going with the tree metaphor, as trees never really grow back into themselves normally.

Re: Update to Git changes the default of init.defaultBranch to main

#194

Post by warmwaffles »

aaomidi wrote: post #134
tachyonbeam wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I myself am a minority as well. I'm genuinely worried that all of this talk and social shaming related to "systemic racism" is actually going to create more of the monster it purports to try to defeat. I mean, seriously. How do you think right wing people feel when they see left wing people on TV chanting that we should abolish the police? They clutch their guns even harder, that's what happens. By making an immense…

I mean, I'm also for abolishment of police. Police in basically everywhere of the world was made by the ruling class to keep people in order. This matter is even worse in the US that a LOT of police departments were literally made after the emancipation proclamation (or somewhat before), to capture runaway slaves. This is the history of policing in the US. I think what it generally comes down to is a LOT of Americans…

> This matter is even worse in the US that a LOT of police departments were literally made after the emancipation proclamation (or somewhat before), to capture runaway slaves.

This is going to need a citation. Cursory searching leads me to Sheriffs being elected in the early 1800s in Ohio. Ohio was also a free state in 1803 when it joined the Union.

Re: Update to Git changes the default of init.defaultBranch to main

#195

Post by nicbou »

renewiltord wrote: post #63

Non-issue. I've run the following because I'm used to it: git config --global init.defaultBranch master This default doesn't matter to me.

This is my favourite comment in this thread. Everyone is losing their minds and you just changed your config and carried on with you day.

Re: Update to Git changes the default of init.defaultBranch to main

#196

Post by aaomidi »

tachyonbeam wrote: post #135
aaomidi wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, I'm also for abolishment of police. Police in basically everywhere of the world was made by the ruling class to keep people in order. This matter is even worse in the US that a LOT of police departments were literally made after the emancipation proclamation (or somewhat before), to capture runaway slaves. This is the history of policing in the US. I think what it generally comes down to is a LOT of Americans…

> I think people on the left generally assumes too much of people I think it's perfectly legitimate to ask "what about the murderers, thiefs, rapists and criminal gangs? The obvious answer is that you need a police force. You can call it the flower-and-peace-corps if you want, but you need both enforcers and detectives to protect the population. If what you mean is "reform the police", then don't call to "abolish the…

No I mean abolish the police.

> The obvious answer is that you need a police force

Yes, you've been conditioned by society to assume that's the only answer to this. Again this is what I mean by people are uneducated about policing and state power.

Re: Update to Git changes the default of init.defaultBranch to main

#197

Post by giancarlostoro »

dingaling wrote: post #118
giancarlostoro wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an actual American minority I'm a little upset that instead of someone trying to do something meaningful about racism they bikeshedded this solution. Git was made by a man from Finland, I find it highly unlikely he had nefarious intentions in naming the default branch 'master' and anybody who disagrees really needs to reevaluate everything we know about Linus. He doesn't care about people's attributes, he cares ab…

> Git was made by a man from Finland ... and deliberately named it using a word that's offensive in British English. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Git If you said 'git' to someone in an English pub you'd be looking for a punch. For USians it's roughly comparable to 'asshole' on the spectrum of offensiveness.

The fourth definition does not sound so bad ;) I mean, yeah he did that as a punch to himself because he felt naming another project after himself would be bad. Heck some would argue the UX of git command line makes the name fitting.

Re: Update to Git changes the default of init.defaultBranch to main

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Post by biryani_chicken »

tachyonbeam wrote: post #3

If I say "you are the master of your own destiny", is that offensive, because the word "master" is always offensive? I think that "main branch" sounds fine, it makes as much sense as "master branch", but I'm irked that people are always caving to word policing. Like, we're just going to scratch a whole bunch of words from the dictionary because someone somewhere is offended? The other day, people at my workplace were…

Like I heard someone say, Julius Cesar was a bad guy, but we probably don't wanna change the name of the month of July.

Re: Update to Git changes the default of init.defaultBranch to main

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Post by Biganon »

gorgoiler wrote: post #99
dspillett wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> - git: literally a pejorative And very deliberately so. >- any website name ending in -hub, cf websites of interest to teenage boys Does -hub have a general negative connotation in your language? In English it just refers to a centre of something, in physical objects usually something with a radial topology. If the existence of pornhub.com is enough to make the use of the pattern *hub problematical generally then I…

My native language, despite what people think of my ability to write, is English. Bread is too quotidian for your example, I think. Try subverting something more closely related to computers. Perhaps launching pornhaskell.co.ck would be a better attempt? It’s more likely to generate embarrassment in class if you ask the boys if they’ve been up all night with sticky Haskell problems. Good luck!

Except "porn" is by definition related to porn, whereas "hub" is completely generic? Why would a word cease to be OK because a porn website has been using it?

Re: Update to Git changes the default of init.defaultBranch to main

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Post by heyoni »

biryani_chicken wrote: post #198
tachyonbeam wrote: post #3

If I say "you are the master of your own destiny", is that offensive, because the word "master" is always offensive? I think that "main branch" sounds fine, it makes as much sense as "master branch", but I'm irked that people are always caving to word policing. Like, we're just going to scratch a whole bunch of words from the dictionary because someone somewhere is offended? The other day, people at my workplace were…

Like I heard someone say, Julius Cesar was a bad guy, but we probably don't wanna change the name of the month of July.

Oh man, can you imagine that?
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