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Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by mattbk1 »

ezst wrote: post #77
gwillz wrote: post #60

This is great! I used to run a Subsonic server for myself but it kind of fell apart because the licensing in version 6 kind of broke the community around it. But it looks like this supports the same Subsonic protocol, which is pretty great. It's cool to not only take inspiration from predecessors but to also support and build on the same ecosystem.

Airsonic is what I went for after the licensing woes, recommended if you liked the server-side UI and want to keep the old data. If you think you won't miss accessing your tracks by directory, navidrome (written in go) has a smaller footprint and is quite actively developed (but the web UI is rather awkward)

I can recommend Navidrome on yunohost; Airsonic install kept breaking for me.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by Kaze404 »

monokh wrote: post #31
Munksgaard wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing the code of conduct primarily concerns the software development process?

Doesn't seem so: > If a community member engages in .... up to and including expulsion from all Funkwhale spaces

The maintainers have no power over federated instances. The code of conduct is pertaining to the repository and official Funkwhale communities (such as the Matrix chat and discussion boards).

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by davidwparker »

greggman3 wrote: post #118
dvno42 wrote: post #19

I've been using this for a little over a year and like it a lot but it lacks the music discovery features of commercial platforms (which becomes important when you have terabytes of music) and takes a lot of effort to organize music and create play lists. The music onboarding process typically starts with organizing metadata with Musicbrainz Picard then import the collection into Funkwhale's DB via a cli admin tool.…

Which music service's discovery features actually work? For me the only one that worked was Google Play Music. The rest have been total and utter crap at discovery.

I use Spotify and have great luck there.

Playlists: Discover Weekly tends to result in ~3-5 (new to me) musicians/week that I hadn't heard of that I would actually listen to. That's a pretty high ratio IMO.

Release Radar tends to result in ~1 (new to me)/week. Granted, it's supposedly mostly ones I listen to, but still has several I've never heard of.

Daily Mix 1-6 are a mixed bag and sometimes result in something new, but mostly just things I like (and may have forgotten about too).

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by SamBam »

asutekku wrote: post #92
progval wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

`curl | sudo bash` is for the non-technical people who may have just sshed into a server for the first time. If you don't put it front and center, they will be lost. The experienced sysadmins such as you and I can skip the paragraph and find an alternative we like.

Non technical people are not going to run terminal commands to install software.

If you're setting up a home server, particularly on something like a Raspberry Pi, which they mention, then you're already "slightly technical," and should know about the terminal.

Indeed, for many people setting up a home server might be the first time they're dealing with the terminal. So this is a "non-technical step into being technical."

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by GrinningFool »

greggman3 wrote: post #118
dvno42 wrote: post #19

I've been using this for a little over a year and like it a lot but it lacks the music discovery features of commercial platforms (which becomes important when you have terabytes of music) and takes a lot of effort to organize music and create play lists. The music onboarding process typically starts with organizing metadata with Musicbrainz Picard then import the collection into Funkwhale's DB via a cli admin tool.…

Which music service's discovery features actually work? For me the only one that worked was Google Play Music. The rest have been total and utter crap at discovery.

When Pandora first did discovery based on the attributes of the music you're listening to, it was amazing.

Then it became trendy to provide discovery based on what other people who listen similar things like. Not so amazing ever since. Not _bad_... just not great. I haven't found any (even GPM) that do a good job at pulling together suggestions that fit into my eclectic listening habits.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by cthalupa »

birracerveza wrote: post #53
JacobSuperslav wrote: post #9

I know this kind of thing might not be very popular on HN, but I like their anti-meritocracy statement: https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/code-of-conduct

You like an ANTI -meritocracy statement? We truly have gone backwards.

Here's the issue with meritocracies: They pursue individual excellence at the expense of group excellence.

We know[1] that a more diverse group creates better group outcomes than a non-diverse group where specific individuals may have better performance. Even from a wholly selfish perspective for the people running a project, prizing diversity of qualified individuals over a pure meritocracy is the right play.

From a "making the world a better place" perspective where some altruism is shown, it also helps to acknowledge that not everyone has all the same advantages and tailwinds so that it is fundamentally more difficult for them to have had all the same opportunities and advantages, and providing those opportunities and advantages to them gives them that chance to even the playing field. The amount of unconscious bias built in to humans also means it is difficult for us to be effective judges of ability for those that are not like us. You don't have to be racist/exist/homophobic/transphobic/etc. to have built in biases - you just have to be human. They're difficult to overcome without explicitly stating goals around it.

[1] https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0,44&as_vis=...

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by lomereiter »

tchaffee wrote: post #103
LockAndLol wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Donations I think. They should be able to add links to their homepage, PayPal, patreon, etc. Or maybe that's an upcoming future, I can't remember exactly.

If this is an existing feature, or when they add it, the platform becomes way more interesting to me. I'd love to pay musicians directly instead of the embarrassingly low payouts from services like Spotify.

A feature would be nice to have, but right now you can just go to an artist-friendly shop (such as Bandcamp or Qobuz) and buy an album of the artist you'd like to support.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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Post by cthalupa »

Dirlewanger wrote: post #177
herbstein wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The word 'meritocracy' was coined as a derogatory term about the education system in England in the 50s in a satirical text. It mocked the idea that such a thing could exist because the system obviously wasn't designed for it. If you value "intelligence", but only give rich people access to good education, then you've just created a two-step process that selects for rich people.

Ok, so what? It's not used in that context anymore. It's the same pitfall as the master/slave/blacklist/whitelist/etc. arguments: people have a problem divorcing historical meaning from present-day usage. Meanings change and evolve over time. If we follow this stunted logic, then there's going to be a lot of other English words/phrases that need to be banned as well. The only people associating them with their histor…

The term was coined in a derogatory manner because the person who coined the term thought it was a ridiculous concept.

No one is saying ban the word meritocracy, but people are saying that if you're arguing for one, you've missed the point.

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