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Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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I wonder how long this will last until Google finds a way to prevent the migration out...

GDPR specifies the right to data-portability. In Europe services have to provide data in a machine readable, commonly used format for export.

(For just this reason.)

And that's why I think the GDPR is one of the best things the EU has ever done.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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Google SSO is the best option to login into my country's e-government portal. The other options are: - Bank (requires subscription) - SIM card (requires subscription) - National ID card (requires reader plus a maze of Java applets) All of them suck badly. At least national ID has NFC so technically in future can be a bit easier.

He appears to be in NZ. Yes, I find that crazy.

Nah, NZ doesn't have a national ID.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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this is reason why I want to own everything. Silicon valley wants everything to be subscription based which many people are fine . But the day they lose the account they realized the problem created due to subscription model. Own More Rent Less should be encouraged.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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Many commentators mention e-mail here: I'm a conservative oldtimer with my own domain (since the Ninetees) and associated e-mail, of course. The problem is that it happens to me more and more often that especially with my business contacts in larger companies my e-mail is filtered out / ends up in their junk folders / disappears for other, unspecified reasons. Simple public black lists do not show anything. I am more…

I have been managing my own mail server for 6 years now, and enabling and configuring all the mail security features (DKIM, SPF, etc), and keeping up with them, is indeed the most difficult part. I regularly check my mail server against tools like this: https://mxtoolbox.com/diagnostic.aspx. If you just do one thing wrong, you will end up on some black list from which it is very difficult to get off. So far, I did not have any major problems, but after the initial default installation of Postfix in 2014, all my test mails to Google Mail went straight to Junk.

My server is at Hetzner, and there are some blacklists which block Hetzner IPs by default. You have to contact them, explain that your server is not a spam server, and hope to get whitelisted. In my case, it worked. T-Online in Germany also blocked my IP as well, but they were amazingly quick to whitelist it after I send them an email. They apologized and explained that they also block mail from Hetzner IPs by default.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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"They are a private company so they can do whatever they want!"

- HN every single time someone banned for political reasons on Twitter, Facebook, Youtube etc.

Most likely something like that happened here too.

Considering Reddit now bans people for upvoting the "wrong political ideas" I can see Google banning people for a Youtube like or comment. But they are a private company and they can do whatever they want!

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Yeah I'm always worried about this. I have a paid Microsoft office 365 account with all my email and a lot of data on it. I backup my OneDrive regularly using an rsync-style tool. But the email is more difficult now that it's all in exchange format. I could use IMAP die the backup but Microsoft is going to block basic authentication soon.

I think VEEAM has a community edition of their MS365 backup product that can do up to 10 accounts for free. The software is pretty bloated, but it’s reliable and gives you a PST file to work with.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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post #158

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I wonder how long this will last until Google finds a way to prevent the migration out...

GDPR specifies the right to data-portability. In Europe services have to provide data in a machine readable, commonly used format for export.

Thank god for GDPR. Shame on me for thinking that this kind of regulation was dumb

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I had a bit of an argument with a good guy who just couldn't understand why I wasn't willing to put all our new company's documents on Google. I convinced him (grudgingly) to use a setup much like this (we ended up with Box instead of Dropbox because I got sick of Dropbox trying to grab all my data). Seeing things from his perspective, I was amazed at how successful Google has been in convincing other businesses to t…

And if you are even on Office 365 Home account, you actually can interact with human support in case of issues.

Why should you ever need to? MS Office should be so terribly mature by now that you should never need to. By now, it ought to be faultless.

Surely, you don't still have problems with it. Do you?

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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Self-hosted email seems to elicit conflicting reports of experiences - I think the takeaway I've seen cited most often is that it is incredibly difficult to get your emails delivered to users because you will be randomly blocked one day. I feel like there ought to be some kind of "let's encrypt for email" type solution to create trust but I'm not sure how it could be done.

Google filters their own email sometimes. I’ve seen them filter facebookmail.com too. Microsoft is just as bad. It’s incompetence. The only difference with using a huge provider is they can probably contact someone to get it resolved. As the little guy you can’t.

Re: Google users locked out after 15 years' use

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Google SSO is the best option to login into my country's e-government portal. The other options are: - Bank (requires subscription) - SIM card (requires subscription) - National ID card (requires reader plus a maze of Java applets) All of them suck badly. At least national ID has NFC so technically in future can be a bit easier.

Which country is this? Who uses Google SSO to login to a e-gov portal?

Lithuania. You do need to setup initially using normal means, but after that Google account doesn’t even need 2FA enabled.

https://www.epaslaugos.lt/portal/nlogin

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