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RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Re: RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Post by fsflover »

saurik wrote: post #184
fsflover wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AFAIK garlic routing is still harder to crack than Tor: https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor . The main advantage of Tor is the number of users.

The network security people I know stopped bothering publishing attacks on I2P's directory service--which was(/is) in fact subject to eclipse attacks--because I2P didn't seem to care to fix the issues. Here's a great paper. https://sites.cs.ucsb.edu/~chris/research/doc/raid13_i2p.pdf

>The network security people I know stopped bothering publishing attacks on I2P's directory service

Maybe those you know stopped, but others didn't: https://geti2p.net/cs/papers/.

Re: RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Post by sieabahlpark »

eyeball wrote: post #21

Someone doesn’t like the idea of people being able to save unapproved content before it is scrubbed.

It's hollywood after all. Obviously this is to keep information from spreading. It's just convenient to put it under "copyright law"

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Post by 533474 »

Why are most posts about piracy? If you put your content in youtube, it is there to be downloaded or archived. The platform might not survive the test of time. Torrent sites and legal/fair-use tools such as youtube-dl help preserve humanity. How many times were you able to obtain an obscure book only found in 2 libraries around the world? Or a music album from a once popular orchestra, nowehere to be found in retail channels? Or a TV episode archived and never to be broadcasted or lost in a hurricane?...We as Americans have the duty to preserve humanity and by humanity I mean our individual rights. Let law enforcement to prosecute those who profit from copyrighted works. But information dissemination? how can society move forward like this?

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Post by Eli_P »

fsflover wrote: post #188
Eli_P wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, overlay network 's configuration will be somewhat different, but physically it will be the same. It's like you're rearranging apple bits in a pie to save them; the pie will be sliced and eaten anyways.

> the pie will be sliced and eaten anyways. The difference is how long it takes and how much resources. There is no perfect security. Security is not a "yes/no" thing.

All correct. It's just important to remember who's the attacker:

  Alice -- ISP1 -- 1000 hops -- ISP2 -- Bob
Alice and Bob's identities are protected from each other, but not from the govt because ISPs collect metadata.

Re: RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

#195

Post by autumn_unlaces »

itsoktocry wrote: post #149
autumn_unlaces wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The announced pricing for the current "beta" is $99/month plus $500 upfront for the hardware.

> The announced pricing for the current "beta" is $99/month plus $500 upfront for the hardware. Yes, that's the price they charge. What are the costs of providing the service?

When you said undercut their competitors I assumed you meant undercutting the price consumers pay so I told you the price they are currently offering. I do not know that their costs are and since SpaceX is a private company I don't think we know how much it is costing them to provide it.

Re: RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Post by saurik »

fsflover wrote: post #191
saurik wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The network security people I know stopped bothering publishing attacks on I2P's directory service--which was(/is) in fact subject to eclipse attacks--because I2P didn't seem to care to fix the issues. Here's a great paper. https://sites.cs.ucsb.edu/~chris/research/doc/raid13_i2p.pdf

>The network security people I know stopped bothering publishing attacks on I2P's directory service Maybe those you know stopped, but others didn't: https://geti2p.net/cs/papers/ .

Great... are the issues getting fixed? The point I was making about I2P working so poorly that some people have given up trying to help--in addition to specifically noting that eclipse attacks do, in fact, affect the design of I2P--doesn't seem affected by "there exists people who still spend time demonstrating I2P doesn't work well" ;P.

Re: RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Post by yencabulator »

pfortuny wrote: post #96
submeta wrote: post #56

The RIAA behaves like the powerful in ancient times. But your gut feeling knows exactly when someone is wrong. Just because they refer to some law does not mean their actions are rigt. See „Ius primae noctis“ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_du_seigneur

That is a myth (the Ius primae noctis) despite what Braveheart may say. On the other hand, a little history shows how many things can be lawful (even "patriotic"!) and extremely inhuman (aberrant, whatever). Not so long ago.

> Not so long ago.

How about right now? See Guantanamo Bay. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp

Re: RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Post by saurik »

jk700 wrote: post #90
Santosh83 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RIAA does liaise with its counterparts in several other major countries. Ultimately IP owners in all countries want to extract the last drop of profit and more. It is a common human tendency and the US is merely a vanguard of what will eventually be a global reality.

> It is a common human tendency and the US is merely a vanguard of what will eventually be a global reality. No, it's not. The US is the one pushing other countries to implement US-like copyright laws, as it has a huge music and television entertainment industry and exports entertainment and propaganda to other countries. For most countries if they implement everything the US wants it will only hurt them economically…

They are pushing... and succeeding; most of the DMCA issues are actually due to trade agreements and treaties and all signing counties (which are most of them) have to have similar laws.

Re: RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Post by Woodi »

IMO thieves need be jailed.

But if there will be some place where, for some fee, you can watch all that old movies... Fuck, for years I'm looking for Toy Story (1) to learn what are that Debian names ! But no... 2, 3 but no 1. Ice age 1 ? Rambo ? THX 1138 ? Interesting movies on Netflix and HBOGO ends in like... 2 days of watching ? Why the fuck i need to pay for a whole month ????

Movie/music industry is double stupid: they do not know how to sell what they already have (century+ amount of movies/recordings) and they create such brain-dead organizations like RIAA and many, many others.

Re: RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Post by fsflover »

Eli_P wrote: post #194
fsflover wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the pie will be sliced and eaten anyways. The difference is how long it takes and how much resources. There is no perfect security. Security is not a "yes/no" thing.

All correct. It's just important to remember who's the attacker: Alice -- ISP1 -- 1000 hops -- ISP2 -- Bob Alice and Bob's identities are protected from each other, but not from the govt because ISPs collect metadata.

> because ISPs collect metadata

Which metadata? ISPs only know your next hop. Check out how garlic routing works.

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