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Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by Mandatum » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:21 PM UTC

mmcclure wrote: post #34

I use Firefox multi-account containers[1] extensively, it's honestly the primary reason I use Firefox these days. The big win for me is that I _hate_ having to use the Google account switcher, so I basically set up a container for each Gmail account (work, personal, old email, etc). The nice bonus feature is you can have certain sites default to containers. I had a paid YouTube account for a while, for example, so ha…

Also adding to this - you can set up container-specific proxies with "Container proxy" addon. This is great for when you want to ensure your connection is going over a private network, for instance if you have a regular torrent website (or porn or whatever) - you can configure it to automatically open in a container, like this Facebook addon - but when it opens - it will only connect to the endpoint over a proxy. If you're not connected, it fails.

Works really well with Mullvad which has a SOCKS proxy setup only available when connected.

Great for work connections too, I've setup all work/business websites to auto-open in a "work" container which I've created a local bridge proxy for to ensure my work connections are always over the corporate VPN.

This is also really good if you consult or work with many customers - you can start to build a catalogue of containers with specific settings for those customers.

Container Proxy addon:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/container-pro...

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by dotancohen » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:21 PM UTC

JohnBooty wrote: post #119

I absolutely love the containers feature in general, and the Facebook one in particular. One severe use case limitation (for me) involves using containers to separate work/home accounts. I am a developer, so I do a lot of screen sharing / presenting. Theoretically, I could use Firefox containers to separate things into "work" and "personal." However, all containers have a shared autocomplete history for the URL bar.…

To be fair, both Girls and Git have the concept of commitment. And I've got an extensive .girlsignore file. But under no circumstances should a push be tried on the former, especially if a gentle pull does not succeed.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by welfare » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:22 PM UTC

rdtsc wrote: post #172

welfare wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I did my thesis on browser fingerprinting. Most algorithms that build profiles and look for combinations of features that are unique. The best way to hide your fingerprint is to be as similar to everyone as possible. So that means use as much of the standards as possible that comes with the OS. Do not use anything that would not be considered mainstream (e.g. don't be the only person from Guatemala on Opera, Linu…

Is there anything a user could do to switch a common "corporate laptop" profile, either manually (set this resolution, these fonts, etc) or via an extension. I know about Privacy Badger and they provide some protection but not from all fingerprinting. Their statement about is: https://privacybadger.org/#Does-Privacy-Badger-prevent-finge... --- Privacy Badger can detect canvas based fingerprinting, and will block thir…

You could potentially run some sort of "guest account" on your OS that is wiped clean on logout.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by shock » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:23 PM UTC

jmnicolas wrote: post #118

Browser finger printing will defeat this. I wonder how prevalent it is. Most of the sites I visit seem not to recognize me without cookies but I always wonder if it's just a "ploy" to make me feel untracked. While I'm at it, anyone has good resources on how not to be finger printed (without going full Tor browser)? Do I have to disable Javascript?

The goal should not be to not be fingerprinted since that is a data point in itself, rather the goal should be to appear as a different browser after a short amount of time. There are extensions for Firefox that generate a new "fingerprint" periodically, e.g. 5 mins, for canvas, fonts, audio. Technically they don't generate the actual fingerprint, they add noise to the information that trackers use to generate the fingerprint.

So even if your fingerprint is unique, it would be a new unique fingerprint every 5 minutes. Maybe there's a logical fault with this plan, but, so far, I'm not seeing it.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by shock » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:24 PM UTC

kelnos wrote: post #146

welfare wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I did my thesis on browser fingerprinting. Most algorithms that build profiles and look for combinations of features that are unique. The best way to hide your fingerprint is to be as similar to everyone as possible. So that means use as much of the standards as possible that comes with the OS. Do not use anything that would not be considered mainstream (e.g. don't be the only person from Guatemala on Opera, Linu…

Does changing things often also help? Like, if there was a way to set things up so the browser would randomly change (on every request, or maybe every N minutes) bits of your user-agent, font list, screen resolution, etc., would that make it harder for sites to track you?

There are extensions for Firefox that do this. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24851721.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by shock » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:26 PM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #177

barbs wrote: post #158

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I use Firefox on Mac, but I don't notice any performance hits. At least not compared to Chrome, or browsers on other operating systems. I don't use Safari so maybe I don't know what I'm missing out on. What performance issues specifically do you notice?

The two main things I notice: Some websites basically crash the computer on Firefox but run fine on Safari. Mostly JS heavy sites. The energy usage of Firefox is way higher than Safari, which in turns makes my fans spin a lot harder. Basically some sites will peg the CPU and hit max fan speed, but the same site just sips energy on Safari. Video streaming is a prime example of this. I can use twitch on Safari and it u…

> Some websites basically crash the computer

What does "crash the computer" mean? Do you get the MacOS equivalent of a BSOD?

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by timbit42 » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:26 PM UTC

nuggien wrote: post #85

I've been using this, but it seems to break any sites that use facebook login, so it's pretty annoying to have to disable the extension whenever I need to login to a site that only has facebook login.

This plugin is for increasing privacy. If you're using FB login on non-FB websites, you've already given up your privacy.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by aeturnum » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:27 PM UTC

Just FYI, I installed this and immediately got trapped in a login loop in Facebook.

I got logged out of Facebook after installing it (either by the extension or by FB) and then when I log back in FB asks me to "complete the following steps to regain access to your account" with a button that brings me to an error page. They also mention that this behavior was triggered by me having 2FA enabled on my Facebook account.

So I'm interested but beware right now (especially 2FA people).

Edit 2: This was resolved by using the FB app to verify logins and restored my access in firefox.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by Mandatum » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:28 PM UTC

mook wrote: post #162

jedberg wrote: post #136

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What does Containerize gain you over Multi-account containers? Is the pattern matching more robust?

(I also use Containerise) In my experience that had better support for per-eTLD temporary containers, so that each site can have its own, and the data can be discarded relatively soon. I also have more permanent containers for things that I want to be able to persist (e.g. work uses SSO so I need to link multiple sites together to log in). When I used it I found the management in Multi-Account Containers to be onerou…

Oh wow, okay this makes things a little easier. I've always struggled with logging in as the SSO-flow has domains that I haven't added to the "Always open in X tab". Hopefully the functionality gets incorporated into the MAC addon eventually!

.. I say hopefully, man I feel guilty getting so much use out of these addons when I could be actively contributing. Fuck it, donating.. https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by tialaramex » Wed, Oct 21, 2020, 8:28 PM UTC

mmohtasim wrote: post #5

cooljacob204 wrote: post #2

I'm finding more and more that it might finally be time to switch back to Firefox. Is Google still planning to destroy adblock with Manifest V3?

Encrypted SNI is another feature which is completely absent in chrome but available in firefox.

Work on Encrypted Client Hello (the current iteration of encrypted SNI) continues and you should anticipate that Chrome will deploy it as the draft approaches Last Call perhaps next year.

Because of the Don't Stand Out principle one of the most important factors for success of ECH is the deployment of ECH GREASE, which is to say, willing clients just claiming they want to do ECH even when talking to servers that don't really have any hidden services at all. Chrome's participation in that probably makes a real difference to whether anybody actually tries to block it.