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Wim Hof’s teachings about breath work and the health benefits of cold plunges

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Re: Wim Hof’s teachings about breath work and the health benefits of cold plunges

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Post by spirobel »

lazyjones wrote: post #55
spirobel wrote: post #38

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thats nonsense. The slimmest and fittest I ever was, was when I ate the most processed food in my life. I was cycling from my hometown in bavaria to nice in france. So I just had to eat all this garbage from the supermarket but it got burned immediatly. Funny that he gets downvoted he expressed his point in a very friendly way. I will just say it plainly: fat people are lazy. thats the reason they are fat. You can ea…

> fat people are lazy. thats the reason they are fat. Probably, but not vice versa (I'm not). So you need to be lazy and eat a lot of garbage to become obese.

haha lol you are right. its just one of the reasons.

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Post by spirobel »

junius2020 wrote: post #64
spirobel wrote: post #38

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thats nonsense. The slimmest and fittest I ever was, was when I ate the most processed food in my life. I was cycling from my hometown in bavaria to nice in france. So I just had to eat all this garbage from the supermarket but it got burned immediatly. Funny that he gets downvoted he expressed his point in a very friendly way. I will just say it plainly: fat people are lazy. thats the reason they are fat. You can ea…

try not being lazy when your hormone system has been fried with food that is literally illegal to sell in Europe, from early childhood; https://www.thedailymeal.com/travel/american-foods-banned-ot... or being told that common healthy foods we enjoy in Europe, Australia etc are dangerous and to be avoided; https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/communication/oysters-and-vib...

so the government is responsible that you are fat? that sounds like an excuse lol

Re: Wim Hof’s teachings about breath work and the health benefits of cold plunges

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Post by isleyaardvark »

pugio wrote: post #36

For those interested in going deeper into the incredible world of breathing techniques I recommend "Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art" [0]. Part personal account, part research summary, the book covers a lot of the world's ancient breathing traditions (including Wim Hof and his antecedents), as well as what modern science has to say about them. As with many other aspects of holistic health, it's incredible how We…

The top review has me concerned, it claims the book says plants exchange oxygen for carbon dioxide and that deoxygenated blood appears blue, both of which are incorrect. Does the book really say that?

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Post by coldtea »

collyw wrote: post #132
coldtea wrote: post #94

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I guess placebo was the wrong word here -- as it implies effectiveness. Replace it with pure make-believe of "feeling better" (as opposed to any physiological improvement).

"Pure make believe"? Negative thinking can have a detrimental effect on physical health - usually labelled as stress. It seems completely reasonable that positive thinking could have positive heath benefits (assuming that our base line is somewhere in the middle between positive and negative). We should be investigating the mechanisms and encouraging people to do what has positive results. Homeopathy sounds like a lo…

>Negative thinking can have a detrimental effect on physical health - usually labelled as stress. It seems completely reasonable that positive thinking could have positive heath benefits

Sure. But that's neither here nor there, as bathing in ice cold water is not the mechanism - positive thinking is.

The idea that the Hof's regime did it, is what's the dellusion.

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Post by jrm4 »

honzzz wrote: post #189
jrm4 wrote: post #21

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"Because it doesn't make anyone money" is my best guess. I kinda hate how conspiracy-theory-ish it sounds, but I can't much deny it any more? I'm one anecdotal data point: Never heard of this guy, but the cold shower thing just sounded plausible enough that I figured I'd try it. Not even the whole thing cold -- I start off with a hot shower and then just drop it for the last minute or so, as long as I can stand. And…

To provide one anecdotal data counterpoint: I decided to try cold showers a few years ago (not Wim Hof method, just showers) and although I generaly get ill very rarely, that year I cougt something three times. It obviously does not prove anything, might have been just bad luck, but after the third time I did not have the willpower to restart the cold showers routine again. Maybe I was doing it wrong but I do not kno…

I feel like there's value in the "shock?"

As in, don't do it gradually.

Drop it INSTANTLY and just see how long you can last, even if it's only a few seconds. I know at first I was like okay, 5 seconds f* this.

But then you can make it a bit of a game for yourself, and after a while it just becomes habit.

(and fyi, I live in Florida, so staying in longer is much easier-- But I can say this switch made me change from dreading visiting relatives up North because that would ALWAYS make me sick --- to "aww yeah super cold showers in the morning," and you know, not getting sick.)

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Post by borroka »

8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #4

If this is revolutionary, why isn't everybody following his method? My skeptic alarm is going off, but also all of the investigative content I read about it seems to support the claims. I'm puzzled on why this hasn't seen mass adoption.

It may or may not be fraudulent, but please keep in mind that certain US states have ~ 40% obesity rates. It sounds obvious to the non-obese that eating like there is no tomorrow is not conducive to a good life; and simple measures, like eating less and moving more, can dramatically improve quality of life. But to the obese, it might not be so obvious for a variety of reasons (and yes, there are also genetic and environmental and mental health problems contributing to obesity, but also not caring much about one's own life).

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Post by manbilla »

I'm from India and during the summer holidays, I was sent to a 'Yoga Retreat' by my parents where we spent the whole day doing various Yoga and Meditation activities. This is where I learned Pranayama. Wim Hof's breathing techniques feel awfully simular to Pranayama (While Wim Hof has one technique, there are multiple techniques in pranayama).

Im a sceptical person and don't trust anything unless I see the benefits of any activity unless I see the change right before my eyes. For some reason I stuck to Pranayama and did it every day for a year or so. I observed a marked improvement in my lung capacity and my ability to hold breath underwater (I used to compete with my friends in the swimming pool and would always stay underwater for much longer than them). Also, whenever I'm in any stressful situation (like just before an exam or interview), I used to do the breathing exercise for a couple of seconds (breathe in through one nostril and exhale through the other and vice versa) and all my stress used to vanish and my mind would become very calm and sharp. Not sure why I stopped practicing it but I need to get back into it.

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Post by vram22 »

brian_cunnie wrote: post #179
vram22 wrote: post #46

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>the price you pay is an exercise regimen I read somewhere that N. Vittal, a prominent Indian civil servant, controlled his diabetes by walking a lot, daily. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/N._Vittal >and an extremely disciplined diet (I haven't eaten rice, bread, pasta, or potatoes in 9 years). What about other forms of wheat products like semolina, couscous, etc? Other cereal grains?

W.r.t. walking. Yes, it's a wonderful way to bring down your blood sugar. I once ate too much carbs, and my blood sugar spiked to 180 (I shouldn't let it get over 160, normal people's blood sugar rarely go over 120). I was able to bring it down 50 points, to 130, by walking vigorously for 1/2 hour. > What about other forms of wheat products like semolina, couscous, etc? Other cereal grains? I stay away from them, but…

Interesting, thanks.

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Post by vram22 »

brian_cunnie wrote: post #180
FPGAhacker wrote: post #30

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If you don't mind sharing, what do you eat?

Every morning: - 1 pint milk - coffee - 1/4 cup oatmeal During the day, a big salad consisting of the following: - kale - romaine lettuce - baby spinach - butter lettuce - arugula - carrots - mushrooms - sweet potato ribbons (uncooked) - shaved parmesan cheese - sunflower seeds - pumpkin seeds - peanuts - salt - pepper - unbelievable amounts of olive oil - avocado Snacks: - apples (1 or 2) - blueberries Once a week I…

That's an unusual diet, it seems. So did you calculate the weight in grams (and fractions thereof) of all nutrients humans need, or just use gut feel to work out the meal ingredients, particularly in the salad?
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