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OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

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Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

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post #174

portable speakers are one of the worst things invented in this century. I almost cannot take a walk or take a subway train without some youngsters blasting crappy music very loud at everyone.

Fortunately this century also invented noise isolating earphones.

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

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post #191
post #174

portable speakers are one of the worst things invented in this century. I almost cannot take a walk or take a subway train without some youngsters blasting crappy music very loud at everyone.

Fortunately this century also invented noise isolating earphones.

cool, so now it's my duty to spend to not hear other people's bad manners.

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

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post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had good experience with the JBL lineup... I'm on the largest (boombox), and I find the quality acceptable (I don't find the quality of most audio products acceptable). The convenience OTOH is phenomenal -- it comes with me biking, kayaking, (it's submergible) and camping to charge devices and play music, and the charge can last >week. I can only remember it dying on me 2 times in the months I've owned it, and I…

I own an JBL charge 2. These are probably aimed for people who prefer high bass over a balanced sound (balanced they are not). Worst- the bluetooth connection is unstable even in direct sight, within 5-20 cm, with android/mac/raspberry. I realize everyone has different tastes but I would not recommend JBL.

Interesting you had issues with bluetooth -- I use it as my car stereo (car is too old to have bluetooth), and often leave it running with the car shut and I can walk all the way from my garage to the house and still hear the music chugging along just fine.

As for the bass, I agree its a bit boomy, I use EQ at the source to compensate.

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

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They're missing a killer feature they have the hardware to implement: Ad skipping. Within a fraction of a second they could notice that the audio feed exactly matches a fragment in memory, and mute audio till the feed diverges again from history. One would want this mode off for a "Top Forty" radio station, but on for live content. An easy enhancement would be to press a "kill" button to immediately mute repeating co…

Radio adblock that replaced it with silence would be nearly useless for me... waiting through silence isn't any better.

Something that listened to two streams and cut over to a "backup" when it detected an ad in the primary would be more interesting, if it also switched back automatically!

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your words remind me Apple.

Except Apple hardware is more usable than basically any of their competitors (these days, software is a different story).

People complain about Apple products because it’s one of the most used by people who actually care about what they use, and then fail to provide any decent alternatives.

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

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Does this kind of marketing actually work for many people? Without trying to sound too unkind, I genuinely hope there are not that many people out there who want to use this thing by "carry(ing) on one shoulder with speaker elements facing the head". This thing seems like a very expensive toy.

Considering they're sold out now, I'd say yes, this kind of marketing works.

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

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post #130
post #121

I would be in the market for a powered/bluetooth speaker that doesn't sound like shit. For the price I'd expect (near) audiophile sound, however little in the marketing even seems to mention sound quality, it just seems very gimmicky. Does anyone have any recommendations for a semi portable powered/bluetooth speaker that focuses on accurate sound reproduction (within the limits physics puts on a smaller enclosure)?

I've had good experience with the JBL lineup... I'm on the largest (boombox), and I find the quality acceptable (I don't find the quality of most audio products acceptable). The convenience OTOH is phenomenal -- it comes with me biking, kayaking, (it's submergible) and camping to charge devices and play music, and the charge can last >week. I can only remember it dying on me 2 times in the months I've owned it, and I…

I have an xtreme 2 and it's a very convenient and enjoyable device.

My pet-peeve is that when I bought it, its sound-signature was very close to my JBL studio monitors. I was astounded by the quality. It could give you goose-bumps.

Unfortunately people started complaining that it does not have enough bass and with every firmware update since then, JBL increases the bass response and destroys everything else.

There is no way to downgrade the firmware. It's still a good speaker but nowhere near what it can do when tuned for fidelity instead of bass. :(

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

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post #121

I would be in the market for a powered/bluetooth speaker that doesn't sound like shit. For the price I'd expect (near) audiophile sound, however little in the marketing even seems to mention sound quality, it just seems very gimmicky. Does anyone have any recommendations for a semi portable powered/bluetooth speaker that focuses on accurate sound reproduction (within the limits physics puts on a smaller enclosure)?

Bluetooth isn't really compatible with accurate sound reproduction. The bandwidth is limited so the audio spec mandates lossy compression. An update to the original allows different options for the compression, so if you're starting with a compressed source you might be able to avoid double losses, but I doubt that any software does it that way because you'd lose the ability to do e.g. volume control.

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

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post #121

I would be in the market for a powered/bluetooth speaker that doesn't sound like shit. For the price I'd expect (near) audiophile sound, however little in the marketing even seems to mention sound quality, it just seems very gimmicky. Does anyone have any recommendations for a semi portable powered/bluetooth speaker that focuses on accurate sound reproduction (within the limits physics puts on a smaller enclosure)?

Minirig

It's the best. End of story. A little expensive. Absurd low end for such a small device. Two different gain level wired inputs plus BT. Can be paired, and even extended to the sub.

Just a customer, along with everyone in my family.

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

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I have not heard this speaker, but like many portable speakers, the design is distinctly suboptimal even by portable standards. In a portable device, stereo is actually not desirable. Two reasons. One, you will certainly not experience the intended effect of stereo (the illusion of spatial separation) when the drivers are so close together. Two, the drivers will actually interfere with each other. Not only are you no…

Thank you for the perspective here. A wish there was a way to bookmark comments on HN..

Thank you kindly!

If you ever decide to dip your toes into the hi-fi world, there are a lot of objectivist, engineering-minded audiophiles out there. I would say they outnumber the "magical thinking" audiophiles by a significant degree online. It's been a really fun hobby for me!

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