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Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by gruturo » Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 9:40 AM UTC

dx034 wrote: post #99

Answerawake wrote: post #75

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Windows 10 telemetry, secretly turning on auto updates even after you turn it off and correct me if I am wrong, even if you disable the update service or add the urls to the hosts file it now "mysteriously" undoes that stuff over time. Windows 10X will probably have some more goodies.

I believe auto updates aren't malicious. Microsoft had a huge problem with worms infecting millions of computers that used outdated Windows version. It made Windows less secure in public opinion, even though these issues had often been fixed a long time. Forcing people to update was probably the only way to stop that. I'm also not a fan, I got burned at least once by a Windows 10 computer restarting in the middle of…

I don't have a problem with forced security fixes. I DO have a problem with forced updates which are completely unrelated to security, install thinly veiled ads disguised as apps, break existing functionality, change my browser/PDF reader preferences, occasionally brick the whole machine.

Also I have a huge problem with so much of this crap needing a reboot. Reengineer the damn thing so it doesn't in 99% of cases.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by kmlx » Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 9:41 AM UTC

m463 wrote: post #142

pizza234 wrote: post #116

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I personally tried to use Windows XP (for my Windows systems, which is mostly VMs nowadays) for as long as I could. First, it was the first solid (in relative terms) consumer operating system from MS. Second, it was lightweight (in relative terms) in terms of UX and, somewhat consequently, engineering. With Windows Vista (but in particular, Windows 8), MS started to add complexity on every layer. Nowadays, I'm really…

I think a lot of people have sort of backed their chair away from the table like you. I remember reading Matt Ridley's The Rational Optimist and it talked about trade. Basically it said with trust, trade is unlimited. But what's been happening with computers and software is that trust been going downhill so quickly that many people don't install anything ever anymore. Privacy, dark patterns, monetization, form over f…

i think you are onto something, but i don't think the market cares that much about privacy, dark patterns etc

also see how software has stabilised over the years, both as a product and as a marketplace. there are now clearly defined best in class software that will take years to be disrupted.

but one of the major aspects against computer software has come from mobile. lots of development time has gone to browsers and mobile than desktop.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by wasmitnetzen » Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 9:45 AM UTC

moshimoshir wrote: post #178

BallyBrain wrote: post #175

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The internet archive can help you out here, I used this recently for an XP VM https://archive.org/details/WinXPProSP3x86

Technically I'm looking to buy a serial so I can tell myself I didn't steal. Thank you for your link, once I have a serial I'll know where to get a safe copy from.

I have an educational MSDNAA (or Dreamspark, or whatever it is called this month) key I can send you, if that's legal enough for you.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by swebs » Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 9:47 AM UTC

Here's the original source: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/77879263

And the archive when it gets pruned: https://archive.is/eg9nw

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by jacobwilliamroy » Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 9:50 AM UTC

Brett_S wrote: post #190

An interesting question here is how did Microsoft's systems get compromised such that their source code was leaked?

I imagine it all went down in a manner very similar to the sense/net hack from neuromancer.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by jacobwilliamroy » Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 9:52 AM UTC

pizza234 wrote: post #116

matthewmacleod wrote: post #51

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Nostalgia is, it seems, a hell of a drug.

I personally tried to use Windows XP (for my Windows systems, which is mostly VMs nowadays) for as long as I could. First, it was the first solid (in relative terms) consumer operating system from MS. Second, it was lightweight (in relative terms) in terms of UX and, somewhat consequently, engineering. With Windows Vista (but in particular, Windows 8), MS started to add complexity on every layer. Nowadays, I'm really…

i changed my windows 10 color scheme to bright red so I always feel like I'm in danger.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by flyinghamster » Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 9:52 AM UTC

m463 wrote: post #142

pizza234 wrote: post #116

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I personally tried to use Windows XP (for my Windows systems, which is mostly VMs nowadays) for as long as I could. First, it was the first solid (in relative terms) consumer operating system from MS. Second, it was lightweight (in relative terms) in terms of UX and, somewhat consequently, engineering. With Windows Vista (but in particular, Windows 8), MS started to add complexity on every layer. Nowadays, I'm really…

I think a lot of people have sort of backed their chair away from the table like you. I remember reading Matt Ridley's The Rational Optimist and it talked about trade. Basically it said with trust, trade is unlimited. But what's been happening with computers and software is that trust been going downhill so quickly that many people don't install anything ever anymore. Privacy, dark patterns, monetization, form over f…

I consider XP to be the first instance of Microsoft tightening the screws, as it was the first version to require activation, with the potential for hardware upgrades to require reactivation. Even then, I thought that it would ultimately lead to locked-down bootloaders and other such tomfoolery, and we're now most of the way there, or, indeed, already there for mobile.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by jacobwilliamroy » Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 9:53 AM UTC

tamrix wrote: post #8

enjoyyourlife wrote: post #2

https://twitter.com/RoninDey/status/1309275918943301636 https://anonfiles.com/Ffn8u2Yaoa/Microsoft_leaked_source_cod...

This is still illegal to obtain, right? I'm not sure if it's wise to post the link as it may encourage others to download it and might be against the ToS on hackernews.

you ever download a loaf of bread?

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by Gibbon1 » Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 9:59 AM UTC

bayindirh wrote: post #186

Gibbon1 wrote: post #177

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One thing I read when dicking with how USB drivers work is that the Microsoft's first USB driver model was hopelessly broken, so they started over. And that also turned out badly enough that they redid it again. That's what ended up in XP and it mostly worked okay. You can see why they didn't want to/couldn't backport USB drivers.

Can you provide a source? I love to read that kind of stuff.

I think it's a dead tree source. Might still have it.

Re: Windows XP source code has leaked

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Post by kasabali » Fri, Sep 25, 2020, 10:00 AM UTC

kasabali wrote: post #93

asveikau wrote: post #56

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In early Windows XP days everybody said it was crap compared to Win2k. XP was the first one with product activation as well. And people called the Luna theme childish. Then Vista came along and people said XP was the good one.

That doesn't prove anything. People said it was crap because it was. Then SP1 was released with 1+ year and it became pretty good. By SP3 it was rock solid because that's 7 years of bug fixes keeping other changes to minimum. That's what giving bugs does to software, no surprise here.

... I'm sorry about typos

with 1+ year -> with 1+ year of bug fixes

giving bugs -> fixing bugs