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Re: Text-Only Social Network

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I don’t, I just recognize them as commenters and can tie their comments into their previous comments.

That might be one difference. I read comments, but not who wrote them. I don't even know who I am replying to right now ;-) It is like shouting into the dark.

HN de-emphasises the handle of the commenter (smaller font, lighter text). No doubt that was an intentional decision, but I wonder just to what extent the original designer (pg?) expected it would influence the discussions.

Reddit emphasises them a bit more than HN, but still the natural reading flow is such that you miss the username. It's common for someone to comment, a second poster to reply asking a question, and a third poster to reply without people noticing he's different from the first poster.

Facebook emphasises the commenter more, showing their name in bolder text and a profile picture.

Some older forums (on phpBB, vBulletin, etc) emphasised it even more, devoting a large section to the left of each post to the commenter's name, statistics and often an avatar. These forums were much more prone to cults of personality than the likes of Reddit.

On the other end of the spectrum is 4chan, where posts are anonymous and content, or at least memes, is king. It doesn't seem like that necessarily leads to more nuanced discussion.

Re: Text-Only Social Network

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I wanted to see how it would handle non-ascii text so I typed 안녕하세요 and it romanized it to annyeonghaseyo. (This is "hello" in Korean). I did not expect that. I really like the idea of a text-only social network, so I hope this takes off. I think the author should consider supporting other languages though. Seeing romanized text isn't very helpful to people that actually want to read or write in other character sets.…

> I think the author should consider supporting other languages though Maybe it's a moderation problem? I personally wouldn't feel comfortable running a non-english service, as I feel it would be too hard to moderate it effectively (or at least until you rearch the point where you have paid or volunteer moderators fluent in both the "main" language (to communicate rules and policy clearly) and any other supported lan…

I don’t think Lucian has needed to moderate yet, it’s been a small and positive community afaik.

Re: Text-Only Social Network

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So... even if it's English-only, I can't quickly refer to a price in £ or € or ¥? Or that it's 90°F out? I can't talk about my fiancée? I can't even use “proper quotes”? Yikes. These days, talking about the "benefits" of ASCII-only is like talking about the "benefits" of HTTP over HTTPS, or the benefits of dial-up as opposed to broadband. No thanks. It's exclusionary and for zero good technical reason. For every reas…

Stay tuned for my uppercase-only social network. Also, we don’t allow the letter Z nor semicolons, as they are rarely used.

Someone's ahead of you: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z4dve4/its-like-tweeting-...

Re: Text-Only Social Network

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> English only

I understand that they limit the text to ascii. But many other languages can be (sort of) written using only ascii characters. How do they want to enforce that? Do they block users who speak other languages? It sounds callous to me. A great thing about twitter is precisely that it allows to form communities of speakers of tiny, globally irrelevant languages.

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Is that by Queneau? (Probably spelled that wrong.)

I'd love to make a gag about how it couldn't possibly be - because Queneau has the letter e in it twice... But the one I was referring to is La Disparition by Georges Perec - with the letter e four times... :shrug:

in my edition of "la disparition" the author is written as "gorgs prc"

Re: Text-Only Social Network

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When you say "social network", do you mean Twitter Clone? It seems like developers in particular have come to regard Twitter as archetypal social networks despite it's many problems and the way the user doesn't really much ability to define their own social graph. IE, N-character limit is still a determiner of Twitter (poisonous) discourse quality, just for example and Twitter isn't something most people enjoy being…

The character limit is the last of Twitters issue, in my opinion. I think the #1 issue is the retweet model, it leads to people just brainlessly sharing low effort content with a single click. It's similar to how fake news and misleading content thrive on Facebook. But notice how Instagram where it's impossible to easily re-share content (well, you can now in stories) is far less toxic.

> But notice how Instagram where it's impossible to easily re-share content (well, you can now in stories) is far less toxic.

People still re-share it, Instagram just encourages and rewards you to just steal the content and pretend it's your own and because the system doesn't support hyperlinking it's very difficult to call people out on it.

It's a huge issue for any artists on the platform.

Re: Text-Only Social Network

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I agree with the overall sentiment of your comment but.. > It's exclusionary and for zero good technical reason. For every reasonable programming language, there are functions to do everything in UTF-8 that you can do in ASCII, with about the same complexity. At minimum, unicode does come with a lot of complexity in implementation, and a lot of potential vulnerabilities due to that complexity. Not saying that excuses…

> unicode does come with a lot of complexity in implementation As far as I know, ASCII is a proper subset of UTF-8. That makes implementation quite natural in most cases (e.g. string replacement). EDIT: Looks like Lucian built this site in PHP, which easily handles UTF-8, as well as most DBs.

I don’t know if you use Android based phones. It is common for these devices to practically never get updates. I think there are a lot of users stuck on older versions of Unicode?
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