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App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Can confirm that blocking Facebook on my iPhone makes these crashes go away. All in all I might leave that block up permanently as nothing going to those addresses does me any good

How do you do that? At OS level with a setting? Networking changes?

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Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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post #114

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Why are people using the facebook sdk? What does it give them?

When we looked at it, we saw several reasons, all of which are dubious at best: 1. It is required for a "login with Facebook" feature, apparently. I'd presume this goes for other feautures that integrate with facebook, such as "invite from your friends" or "share on facebook(messenger)". 2. It gives access to metrics, when added to your own, greatly enrich your own data collection. 3. It is required when working with…

Extending point 2, it’s essential if you’re running ads on Facebook and want to know if clicks on the ad in Facebook bring the user through to the app - ie so you can be sure you got a real conversion

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Waze, a google owned app for the past 4 years, crashes because of the FB app. WhatsApp, a Facebook owned app, will not give you read access to your own chat database - it’s encrypted. But they have an arrangement with Google where it’s will back up unencrypted to your Google account (though, Google won’t let you retrieve it ... only the WhatsApp app can) Everything about this duopoly, their cooperation and lack of co…

Also, you can't migrate WhatsApp between iPhone and Android. There's a utility called BackupTrans, which follows an extremely convoluted process including a step where they install an old version of WhatsApp. It seemed to work but it trips some wire and WhatsApp put me in an hour-long timeout state, twice. Since I very much depend on WhatsApp, I dare not use it anymore.

The android/iPhone thing isn’t on purpose, it’s an artifact of the organizational structure at WhatsApp

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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While Spotify crashing on launch may be a nuisance, this also affects life-critical apps crashing on launch. Our forensic analysis [1] found that half of the top 21 iOS safety apps send data to Facebook, and last time this happened back in May we spot-checked some of these safety apps and they were all crashing on launch. The SDK is typically included for ad attribution/tracking, not Facebook login, so it wouldn’t even be visible to the end user, and there’s no way to disable it.

[1] https://parachute.live/blog/forensic-investigation-the-shock...

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Yes, it's definitely time for some slightly enhanced armchair activism! Convert all active whatsapp contacts to signal? 80%? 50%? Same for Facebook messenger! It needs to be uncomfortable enough - if they want to communicate with us and are minimally tech savvy ("click link to install app") they have to switch to signal . That's it. I'm starting to send out messages over my morning coffee. Let's do this together: htt…

> Convert all active whatsapp contacts to signal? 80%? 50%? They can start by removing the atrocious phone number verification first.

This is exactly why I never got further than their login/signup.

Being forced to give them one of my 'most unique identifiers' (my phone number) was an absolute 'no'.

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

#196
post #64

Waze, a google owned app for the past 4 years, crashes because of the FB app. WhatsApp, a Facebook owned app, will not give you read access to your own chat database - it’s encrypted. But they have an arrangement with Google where it’s will back up unencrypted to your Google account (though, Google won’t let you retrieve it ... only the WhatsApp app can) Everything about this duopoly, their cooperation and lack of co…

Had to restart my iPhone 7, now waze works again.

Haven’t seen anything like this before.

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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I just had to check this; the Android app has "Request account info" and specifically mentions "which you can access or port to another app". As much as I'm happy to pile on Google, Facebook and WhatsApp, this appears to be untrue.

It also specifically mentions that doesn't contain all the messages, and takes up to 3 days. You can export individual chats as texts, but not all the attachments, metadata, etc - and you have to specifically select each one. The statement that "Facebook gives an unencrypted copy of your chat database to Google but will not give it to you" is true; I'm referring to the SQLite database. You can back it up locally, but…

isn't whatsapp using e2e ?

if that's the case then facebook can't "give you" the key, because they don't have it, it's supposed to be on your phone and only there..

Is there something i'm missing here ?

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, you can't migrate WhatsApp between iPhone and Android. There's a utility called BackupTrans, which follows an extremely convoluted process including a step where they install an old version of WhatsApp. It seemed to work but it trips some wire and WhatsApp put me in an hour-long timeout state, twice. Since I very much depend on WhatsApp, I dare not use it anymore.

The android/iPhone thing isn’t on purpose, it’s an artifact of the organizational structure at WhatsApp

What makes you sure it's not on purpose? I don't disagree, I'm just curious about your statement.

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, you can't migrate WhatsApp between iPhone and Android. There's a utility called BackupTrans, which follows an extremely convoluted process including a step where they install an old version of WhatsApp. It seemed to work but it trips some wire and WhatsApp put me in an hour-long timeout state, twice. Since I very much depend on WhatsApp, I dare not use it anymore.

The android/iPhone thing isn’t on purpose, it’s an artifact of the organizational structure at WhatsApp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law at work.
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