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Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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from the description of the YouTube video > Black correspondent Omar Jimenez had just shown a protester being arrested when about half a dozen white police officers surrounded him. Is there any reason to assume racism? it looks like two other people in the camera crew got arrested and they don't look black. It looks to me like CNN is trying to play the race card to stir controversy when there are millions of other mo…

The other team a block away was white and didn't get arrested.

Bingo.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Not an argument for this site I guess. But this is what happens when you have political leaders picking sides in violence. Trump literally tweeted "when the looting starts the shooting starts" (not before this event, of course -- it's an example). You think rhetoric like that doesn't have the effect of empowering police to abuse their power against people they don't like?

"Not an argument for this site I guess," hence the downvotes, heh. I agree though. And I'd take it a step further and say that the institution of policing in the US has historically always been on the side of systemic violence. Police forces literally started as night patrols to catch runaway slaves, which as about as racist as it gets. If there was a point in history where they somehow severed ties with their racist origins and underwent fundamental, institutional change, I've yet to learn about it.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

#193
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instructions from some random cop are not laws

In my state, one must comply with any order from a police officer who is in uniform and acting in the performance of his or her duties. This is a law with criminal consequences.

Any lawful order, I'd suspect.

That's an important distinction. If you're ordered to shoot yourself in the head by a cop, "no" is a perfectly reasonable answer, and likely to stand up in court.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> when the looting starts the shooting starts Harsh words, but at the end of the day, people will defend their property with a gun and have every right in doing so.

Yes, extrajudicial murder to protect physical property, that's justice. When you care more about stuff than you do about actual human lives, your evil is showing.

Okay, please roll out the red carpet for the people coming to loot your home or business, good boy.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

#195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> when the looting starts the shooting starts Harsh words, but at the end of the day, people will defend their property with a gun and have every right in doing so.

Yes, extrajudicial murder to protect physical property, that's justice. When you care more about stuff than you do about actual human lives, your evil is showing.

Your insured stuff even...

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

#196
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ....These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won't let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you! [sic] Taken from https://news.sky.com/story/george-floyd-death-twitter-flags-...

So, were did he say "to shoot looters"? That's just one possible interpretation, if you really want to understand him that way.

> Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we [The Military] will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts.

Who would he be implying is doing the shooting other than the Military that will assume control?

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

#197
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from the description of the YouTube video > Black correspondent Omar Jimenez had just shown a protester being arrested when about half a dozen white police officers surrounded him. Is there any reason to assume racism? it looks like two other people in the camera crew got arrested and they don't look black. It looks to me like CNN is trying to play the race card to stir controversy when there are millions of other mo…

The linked video and description are from The Independent reposting CNN's feed. The CNN video has no such description:

https://youtu.be/ftLzQefpBvM

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

#198
post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ....These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won't let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you! [sic] Taken from https://news.sky.com/story/george-floyd-death-twitter-flags-...

So, were did he say "to shoot looters"? That's just one possible interpretation, if you really want to understand him that way.

No, it isn't one of several reasonable interpretations, it's what he quite plainly wrote.

What else could 'shooting' possibly refer to, if not the shooting of looters?

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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What happened to Floyd is horrible and police abuse is a real thing. I never understood why police officers in the US have no common sense. I recall many incidents where they shoot and kill people trying to escape (so no threat to them). I'm happy the public is doing something about it. However, I'm also annoyed by the stupidity of many people who blindly yell racism. Not so long ago there was a naked black male (Har…

Police don't defend normal people or communities, that's not their job. Their job is to enforce the law, no matter how unjust the law is. > We should support good police officers and not assume all are bad and racist. There is no such thing as a non-racist or good police officer. The police system as a whole is racist. Anybody who chooses to participate in and support that system everyday of their lives is racist.

>The police system as a whole is racist. Anybody who chooses to participate in and support that system everyday of their lives is racist.

What about all the Democrats and Republicans who are ultimately responsible for the laws governing the police system and who have for years tacitly or explicitly supported the war on drugs?

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

#200

I don't have an issue with this. Both the police and the reporters were calm and polite. The police told them they had to clear the street and instead of obeying the order they asked to let them know when they were going to actually walk down the street. Since they refused to obey the order they were detained and escorted out of the way. Being a reporter does not give you a free pass to disobey orders, specially duri…

On some level the people involved here were civil, but it seems like a pretty dire problem when the police want to get rid of journalists. It would be great if the police could figure out how to serve the public in a way where they could be proud of their work and want the journalists to help the world see the good work they're doing.

Of course I agree, but it reminds me of a situation many years back where I live.

There was a big protest and people started throwing rocks at the police, and the media were in the middle of the police at that moment. It actually made the police's response much slower and dangerous because they first protected the media and escorted them out from the protesters range, before charging and arresting people.

I'm sure they have trained some protocol to how to control mobs, and throwing innocent civilians in the mix wrecks the whole thing.

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