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Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by mc32 »

darkerside wrote: post #184

As President, or any public figure, you are responsible not only for the intention of your words, but also every feasible interpretation of your words, as well as the impacts of your words, regardless of intention. I say this not to imply that Trump didn't know that this statement could be taken in multiple ways, but to remind people that even if it can it doesn't matter. It's tragic this has happened, and also tragi…

Every feasible interpretation? No way. That’s not gonna work. No one would be able to say anything. At best people would talk like ex Fed chair Greenspan. Undoable.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by ikeyany »

People are wondering "How far does this go? How can Twitter say this is not cool, but allow something like violent movies or games? Where's the line?"

The leader of the United States encouraging law enforcement and the military to shoot American citizens for looting, that's the line.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by illuminated »

mc32 wrote: post #186
illuminated wrote: post #183

I know it is "never too late" for things like this to happen, but it's definitely late. One of the main reasons for bad things to happen is the lack of education (which, in turn, leads to resist to change) and, therefore makes people prone to believe to unbelievable things. Social platforms like Twitter should have long had things like "fact checking" ANY statements and should have restricting not only violence glori…

That would make sense if every message were placed on hold before publishing while it got reviewed. But this is a real-time system. And even then, there are often multiple sides to events.

I'm not saying it's easy, but effort should be made as it is important. If you see the real-time voice recognition on the new Pixel phone, the technology for this type of action might not be that far away.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by zenexer »

Twitter must be a victim of the toilet paper shortage because they just wiped their ass with Trump’s executive order.[0]

Jokes and politics aside, is this a smart business move on Twitter's part? I'm curious how they envision this playing out. I'm really not sure what I expect to happen; Trump may be a fool, but he's stubborn and persistent. There are also politicians on both sides of the fence who are at odds with social media right now--and often Silicon Valley in general. (See: encryption)

I have no doubt Twitter put a lot of thought into this. Does anyone have insight into what Twitter expects to happen? Also, what would they expect to happen if they opted not to label/hide/whatever some of Trump's tweets?

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23342161

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

wpietri wrote: post #190
mc32 wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would make sense if every message were placed on hold before publishing while it got reviewed. But this is a real-time system. And even then, there are often multiple sides to events.

Is it a hard problem? Sure. Can they get everything? No. But that doesn't mean that they can't quickly act to minimize the total impact. As with many things, 80% of the value can be gained with 20% of the work.

The hard question is whether 80% of the value is available. If you restrict 80% of the worst offenders, but the selection of the 80% is biased in some obvious way, that may be worse than doing nothing at all.

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Post by OldFatCactus »

darkerside wrote: post #184

As President, or any public figure, you are responsible not only for the intention of your words, but also every feasible interpretation of your words, as well as the impacts of your words, regardless of intention. I say this not to imply that Trump didn't know that this statement could be taken in multiple ways, but to remind people that even if it can it doesn't matter. It's tragic this has happened, and also tragi…

He might spend his 2nd term without Twitter or he might follow-through on his vague threats of reforming social media

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Post by mc32 »

illuminated wrote: post #193
mc32 wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would make sense if every message were placed on hold before publishing while it got reviewed. But this is a real-time system. And even then, there are often multiple sides to events.

I'm not saying it's easy, but effort should be made as it is important. If you see the real-time voice recognition on the new Pixel phone, the technology for this type of action might not be that far away.

What’s sexy to me, to someone else is gratuitous sex objectification. Or vice versa.
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