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Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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Looks like youtube account has been restored. Update from the medium article: >> UPDATE: We’re back as of 8:39pm EDT April 11, 2020! I received the following email from YouTube: Hi there, After a review of your account, we have confirmed that your YouTube account is not in violation of our Terms of Service. As such, we have unsuspended your account. This means your account is once again active and operational. If you…

I wonder if that would have been the result if the author didn't make so much noise about it....

It would not have. For each of these articles you see, there are hundreds of others who lose access to their account for no reason and never get it back.

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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I have all my photos including many precious pics like my daughter's first birthday, etc backed up only with Google photos (as GPhotos often cleans up my phones it removes the original too). Post like these are a true wake up call. I definitely need to setup something like syncthing to backup at least one more to good old usb 1tb drive. I guess you should too if you're in the same boat.

Don't rely on a single drive. If your data is important for you, invest in a two-bay NAS and put two hard drives in a RAID1. Hard drives can and do break.

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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I wonder if that would have been the result if the author didn't make so much noise about it....

or how prevailent the problem is, and is just not heard because most people don't have a voice on the internet large enough to garner attention.

I think you mean “prevalent”. “To prevail” has a different meaning.

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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Looks like youtube account has been restored. Update from the medium article: >> UPDATE: We’re back as of 8:39pm EDT April 11, 2020! I received the following email from YouTube: Hi there, After a review of your account, we have confirmed that your YouTube account is not in violation of our Terms of Service. As such, we have unsuspended your account. This means your account is once again active and operational. If you…

No apologies?

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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post #116

I keep hearing stories about similar issues. Suddenly someone is terminated from a Google service for unknown reasons, without any possibility of reversing such decisions. This appears to be true of Twitter and others as well. From my vantage point, it appears to be quite arbitrary. And quite concerning in a number of cases, given the centralization of email, docs, etc. I do make backups of google content every so of…

How do you backup Gmail?

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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youtube is a huge moneysink. not only would it be hard to build, it would never bring money. Google has entrenched themselves in a monopoly here. I think antitrust laws should be applied.

> Google has entrenched themselves in a monopoly here. I think antitrust laws should be applied. If it's true that it isn't profitable how would anti-trust laws make it better? If it's truly unprofitable then separating it from the mothership means it goes bankrupt so no more Youtube. That doesn't seem like a better outcome than what we have today. So it must be profitable to even begin to consider anti-trust regulat…

> If it's truly unprofitable then separating it from the mothership means it goes bankrupt so no more YouTube

You have to look back at Microsoft's Antitrust case around Internet Explorer, the were bundling the software into the operating system for free to kill any competition.

It maybe a loss leader but it plays into an overall corporate strategy.

Splitting YouTube off would not trigger it to go bankrupt, market forces would come into play, they'd have to seek revenue and others players would come into the market to offer a competitive offering.

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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This concept of de-platforming is becoming more and more prevailant. The big techs cannot differentiate between legitimate de-platforming vs a Denial of Service de-platforming. I think while the big techs have a legitimate concern for de-platforming things that are deemed hate speech, this same power can be utilized by individuals to target a de-platforming for people whose opinions they don't like. I think big techs…

> The big techs cannot differentiate between legitimate de-platforming I can try to give some guidelines, I'd love to see improvements (and also like to know if anyone points out I'm wrong :-) Legitimate de-platforming is a) when an individual or organization is removed from the platform based on a request from law enforcement followed by a review by the platforms staff to verify that the request is genuine and that…

Simple and fair. The above idea is what happens when you stick a reasonable, smart person without an agenda into a room and ask them to simply solve a problem without politics.

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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It used to be much harder to knock someone you didn't like offline. You used to have to organize a DDOS attack. But now, all you have to do is organize a much easier mass-flagging attack. We need to update our threat models to account for how unreliable major platforms have become. We can no longer rely on these companies. After big tech spent so much time investing in their own infrastructure, they are undermining t…

>We need to just accept that a major liability of using a major platform like this is that your content may be removed and your account deleted, for unknown reasons. No we don't. You make it sound like it's a law of nature how these companies behave. It's not.

What's that Upton Sinclair quote everyone here loves? "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." It's hard to admit there's a problem when you're part of the problem.

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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You're talking about a company who recently stuck a big logo on the spacebar of their Android keyboard

What??? Source? (iPhone user here)

Looks like it got reverted as quietly as it was released, but here's a link with some info: https://9to5google.com/2020/04/10/gboard-google-logo-spaceba...

Re: YouTube accidentally permanently terminated my account

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post #116

I keep hearing stories about similar issues. Suddenly someone is terminated from a Google service for unknown reasons, without any possibility of reversing such decisions. This appears to be true of Twitter and others as well. From my vantage point, it appears to be quite arbitrary. And quite concerning in a number of cases, given the centralization of email, docs, etc. I do make backups of google content every so of…

It used to be much harder to knock someone you didn't like offline. You used to have to organize a DDOS attack. But now, all you have to do is organize a much easier mass-flagging attack. We need to update our threat models to account for how unreliable major platforms have become. We can no longer rely on these companies. After big tech spent so much time investing in their own infrastructure, they are undermining t…

We also need to update our definition of freedom of speech. It's commonly repeated on the Internet that freedom of speech doesn't cover private platforms. That's true because in 1791, when the First Amendment was written, only the government could impact individual freedom of speech. But now large companies can do it very effectively because they own the platforms everyone is using. Sure, you can still express yourself by shouting on the street or self-publishing a book, but that isn't a at all in the spirit of the Constitution. In practice, individuals can be silenced.
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