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Re: We Made One Gram Of Remdesivir

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post #156

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sounds like we should get on it

According to this radio programme[1] I was listening to at the weekend, scientists have been warning about the potential of coronaviruses to cause a pandemic for a long time, and saying we should work on general antivirals for them. Obviously that didn't happen. [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000gvd1

Didn't it? The one we're talking about was developed to fight the last two Coronaviruses.

Re: We Made One Gram Of Remdesivir

#192
post #179

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This comment broke the site guidelines. Even if you're right, it is a problem to address another user this way, because the container isn't strong enough to hold that level of (let's call it) energy. When you post like this, you're breaking the already-weak bonds that hold this community together, which is what makes it a moderation issue. Would you mind taking a look at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.ht…

I agree, and I'm sorry. I can see how this kind of reaction to a nonsense statement can become problematic, if everybody uses it.

Appreciated!

Re: We Made One Gram Of Remdesivir

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The writing is so good, I had to double check that it wasn't written by Derek Lowe.

I agree. This had the style of a "Things I won't Work With" column, except that those generally describe experiments done for pure research (or possibly military/rocketry applications).

It's interesting that chemistry for pharmaceutical purposes can involve similarly nasty substances.

The article also does a great job conveying how much of a frustration minuscule yields must be.

Re: We Made One Gram Of Remdesivir

#194
post #20

This article really reinforces my choice to drop ochem in college. It's funny how deciphering assembly code seems downright mundane compared to this jargon. Like, I get how given the process you could recreate things, or you could devise possible reactions based on electron shells and bonding tendencies, but how do researchers even figure out how to make these reactions happen? Especially when they require -100C, or…

Organic chemistry is basically doing constraint solving. E.g. you know a lot of different reactions (e.g. replace Cl by OH, add double bond), but some reactions cannot be done depending on the structure of the intermediates.

I have a bachelor in chemistry and ochem was one of the most painful classes based on the amount of things you must know by heart for synthesis

Re: We Made One Gram Of Remdesivir

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post #161

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This is such a great description. Compare how Wikipedia describes the same process [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenosine#Research ]: > The adenosine analog NITD008 has been reported to directly inhibit the recombinant RNA-dependent RNA polymerase of the dengue virus by terminating its RNA chain synthesis. This interaction suppresses peak viremia and rise in cytokines and prevents lethality in infected animals, ra…

Scientific articles on Wikipedia aren’t written for laymen, although some could be understood by laymen as a side effect. For example as a physicist/mathematician I expect precise and physically/mathematically accurate statements rather than hand-wavy analogues that the average Joe might be able to make sense of, and that’s how I edit. Now, it’s okay to also include more approachable explanations, but they’re not a m…

I know Wikipedia has evolved considerably from its original intent, but isn't one of the quintessential goals of an encyclopedia to have an approachable summary of every topic?

Re: We Made One Gram Of Remdesivir

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post #180

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Scientific articles on Wikipedia aren’t written for laymen, although some could be understood by laymen as a side effect. For example as a physicist/mathematician I expect precise and physically/mathematically accurate statements rather than hand-wavy analogues that the average Joe might be able to make sense of, and that’s how I edit. Now, it’s okay to also include more approachable explanations, but they’re not a m…

I know Wikipedia has evolved considerably from its original intent, but isn't one of the quintessential goals of an encyclopedia to have an approachable summary of every topic?

Wikipedia isn't quite like a traditional encyclopedia in this regard. it covers many technical topics that would be too niche to include in the latter.

random example: take a look at the Wikipedia article for "currying". [0] while quite accessible to someone with a math/cs background, this would be pretty much unintelligible to someone who wasn't familiar with the notion of a mathematical function. perhaps it could be rewritten to be even more accessible, but what would be the point of explaining currying to someone who doesn't know about functions and arguments in the first place? brittannica doesn't even cover this topic.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currying

Re: We Made One Gram Of Remdesivir

#197
post #161

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This is such a great description. Compare how Wikipedia describes the same process [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenosine#Research ]: > The adenosine analog NITD008 has been reported to directly inhibit the recombinant RNA-dependent RNA polymerase of the dengue virus by terminating its RNA chain synthesis. This interaction suppresses peak viremia and rise in cytokines and prevents lethality in infected animals, ra…

Gibberish to someone with limited knowledge of biology, but significantly more informative for someone who is using Wikipedia as a reference source and not a textbook.

I agree in general, but in this case the extra information is sort of irrelevant - do we really need to say "in this flavivirus?" Something much better as an overall description might be "Remdesivir is an adenosine analogue that chain terminates RNA dependent rna synthesis, inhibiting viral replication" or something like that. Use the molecule name instead of a label, general instead of specific, and if you are talking about dengue in particular - why refer to it as a flavivirus? Who cares in this context? Just say "dengue" again instead of "this flavivirus." And, I don't think the drug has been empirically demonstrated to inhibit cytokine storms etc, that should qualify the description of the imputed mechanism of action by clarifying that it's the hypothesized effect the drug will have.

Re: We Made One Gram Of Remdesivir

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This article really reinforces my choice to drop ochem in college. It's funny how deciphering assembly code seems downright mundane compared to this jargon. Like, I get how given the process you could recreate things, or you could devise possible reactions based on electron shells and bonding tendencies, but how do researchers even figure out how to make these reactions happen? Especially when they require -100C, or…

Organic chemistry is basically doing constraint solving. E.g. you know a lot of different reactions (e.g. replace Cl by OH, add double bond), but some reactions cannot be done depending on the structure of the intermediates. I have a bachelor in chemistry and ochem was one of the most painful classes based on the amount of things you must know by heart for synthesis

I switched to ChemE after ochem. The memorization sucked and much preferred the math in courses like pchem and thermo.

Re: We Made One Gram Of Remdesivir

#199
post #57

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No, there isn’t really. There is a treasure of info on that site though. I also have a CS background before I moved to the quant area. Things that might help pique your interest: - For both academic and practical problems: http://quant.stackexchange.com/ - For keeping tabs on new ideas in the blogosphere (generally average, occasionally something useful): https://quantocracy.com/ - Useful information on getting start…

Thank you for the list of resources. Given the current situation, this will make interesting reading/study material. If you're comfortable, could you please share how you made the transition to quant from a programming/SWE background?

I'll give the paths that I saw available to someone with a usual CS background. Not hard rules, but the distinction between developer (support) & trader (revenue generation) will be harder to overcome the later on in a career that it happens. Trading/research roles are typically compensated as a direct function of the money you generate, which is where the real upside is.

1) Quant Developer: Trading infrastructure, working on research platforms, taking algorithms created by researchers & deploying into production. Wouldn't want to do this at a bank, but at a hedge fund or proprietary trading firm it'd be fun. Compensation is good, lower variability, but somewhat more limited upside. DE Shaw, 2 sigma, Jane Street, etc.

2) Quant Researcher: A high quality quant masters degree at a minimum (think Baruch MFE), but often a PhD. Working on systematic trading research, market making algorithms, optimal hedging for large books of derivatives, etc. Usually a decent salary, but total compensation varies wildly based on performance.

3) Trader: More and more similar to #2 these days, but more focus on execution of strategies and real-time action rather than research, and more directly responsible for PnL. Optiver, IMC, SIG, etc. A quant masters degree probably isn't required to get a foot in the door, but I think it would help in the long term (e.g. helps build more rigorous understandings of why what you're doing might be working).

Re: We Made One Gram Of Remdesivir

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post #164

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Exactly, the instruments I was talking about are used to measure the properties of photocathodes. It's such a niche field that there's no off the shelf solution. Everybody makes their own device and ours is one of like two in the world with it's grade of sensitivity. There is one professional engineer in the lab my group is a part of, but they primarily work on the bigger projects. For this, I have to do all of the C…

I'll echo this too. Instrumentation is field specific. I was in bioeng, but my work was photo-chem/physics and optics. Basically, building novel nanoscopes. Pro-Tip: Want a 'quick' nobel? Do optics for ~3/4 years. Then never touch it again. Making new kinds of microscopes is crazy useful and high impact, but you either get lucky or you waste 45 years in a lab. Try it out for a bit, throw a few on red, then walk away…

Optical sensors are a potential goldmine, I agree! The electronics are relatively straightforward to implement and the upside is potentially enormous. All you have to do then is find someone who needs your sensor tech! (Admittedly easier said than done. XD)
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