Seems like a power move to me. Painting a picture for the world of struggling U.S. institutions needing a Chinese billionaire's help to weather a crisis. I'm not even sure it's incorrect.
The Chinese are people like you and me. Yes their government needs a lot of work, but people are people and we need to remember that more.
Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US
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Re: Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
The alternative as it seems right now is to not test at all .
Unfortunately, a no-test is preferable to a false negative. Even with known good kits, we are getting negative and positive results from the same patient, most often throat- negative and anal-positive. When a carrier receives a false negative, behavior changes toward risk.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
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"1. Every one of those 1M masks are not tainted with coronavirus." Let's see - 1 of the masks is infected and other 999,999 are perfect and meet 0.3 micron standard or whatever it is to be effective. Following your logic you'd refuse all. Yes my logic is BS but only because yours is exactly the same, just the opposite end.
Do we test 1% of it and say they're safe to use, or do we test 99% of it?
Either way, it sounds like to me, you agree you can't just overlook basic sanity checks.
Maybe we test 51% of it. I'm not sure where you draw that line. God forbid you or your immediate family member gets one of the 49% that didn't get tested, and get infected. Skin in the game.
Is this still BS to you?
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
For context, there's a growing number of Chinese diplomats from younger generation who want China to reciprocate the rhetoric of the current US administration. Expect a lot more ridiculous clap backs like this, especially on Twitter where Chinese diplomats have been cultivating a following since HK. This is probably a direct response to folks in US administration using Wuhan/Chinese Virus. Chinese international messa…
You do realize that the MSM and current US administration are completely at odds right? Just by using that term, MSM, would get most people flagged as a Trump supporter. The US drama is mostly internal and has little to do with China.
They're so at odds they agreed to give the Pentagon $100B more this year than last, in addition to loosening accounting rules so they can hide even more of their shenanigans from the taxpayer. They're so at odds that Gitmo is still open, we're still fighting in a dozen nations, we're undermining the democratic governments of several more, and they just gave the next appointed coup leader a unanimous standing ovation at the state of the union ("it's not good!") speech. They're so at odds that to contest an election with a loud-mouthed incoherent corrupt old person with shady Ukraine connections, they've chosen... a loud-mouthed incoherent corrupt old person with shady Ukraine connections.
They're so at odds that when the government decided they needed to destroy a journalist for doing journalism, for revealing to the USA voter and tax payer the evil shit done with their votes and taxes, not a single journalist anyone had ever heard of spoke up in his defense. Oh yeah, that MSM is speaking "truth to power" now. Good grief.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pretty quick check that. Your cynicism is astounding.
At least I am not ignorant, or naive. That's dangerous.
Staying away from people is the only thing that measurably does anything.
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why does every criticism of China have to have a corollary accompanying US criticism? Can we not just talk about one issue at a time instead of muddling up the waters?
Classic Chinese / Soviet tactic. Every action can be justified because someone else did something bad at some point in time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes
Use of the phrases like these, exemplifying the tu quoque logical fallacy, was an attempt to deflect criticism of the Soviet Union by referring to racial discrimination and lynching in the United States.
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Yeah, honestly. Even as someone who can be cynical about things, I still think this is very much kind and appreciated. Meanwhile I know others who say it's political and means pretty much nothing... I just don't know how to reply.
It's clearly no more political than the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation directing funds & other resources to assist China (and Asia broadly) the other direction, for which Xi personally thanked Bill [1]. China has an enormous amount of wealth and production capacity, anything they can help out with is a positive. As they bring their outbreak under control, they'll have dramatic spare capacity around test kits and med…
When the immediate crisis is over, the world needs to hold the CPC accountable. You don't get to set a fire and show up with a bucket three months later expecting to be declared a hero.
So, Jack Ma donating masks around the world can be a positive thing for the people affected by the virus right now, but it can also be a cynical political move at the same time.
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As a U.S. citizen, I hope someone throws a benefit concert for us. That would be delicious.
U.S.Aid
[0] https://www.usaid.gov/news-information/press-releases/feb-6-...
Re: Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US
#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you believe so strongly that China can't manufacture reliable health products? Most of the health products we've been using for decades are manufactured in China! They are currently operating a fairly successful effort against this disease, and the tests in question are a part of that effort. No one in USA has done the basic work in this field. SMH.
You can't sell products in the US, that were made in China, without FDA approval.
B) No one is selling unapproved products.
Re: Jack Ma to send 500K coronavirus test kits, 1M face masks to US
#200Seems like a power move to me. Painting a picture for the world of struggling U.S. institutions needing a Chinese billionaire's help to weather a crisis. I'm not even sure it's incorrect.
Because thats what matters to you? Were europeans sending aid to China a power move? It’s acceptable to send aid to each other, no matter who you appear to represent.
That's why when Cuba is struck with a hurricane, they reject American aid [1], despite being a relatively poor country who could obviously benefit from it.
[1]https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=943791...