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MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Post by dep_b »

pier25 wrote: post #165
nujabe wrote: post #15

What's disturbing is that Apple seem to be deleting posts: After attempting to be part of the solution; spending a ton of time testing, providing information in the community, communicating with Apple Engineers and Apple Business Team, our most recent post was deleted as "Speculative". We have spent over $300,000 on Apple hardware over the years both business and consumer and now our voice has been muted. How can we…

They did the same with the 2011 MBP fiasco. Ministry of truth at work.

I have a 2011 here still going strong. Looking like new after all of the free replacements, LOL. I guess that GPU either fried over and over by now or came from a lucky batch.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Post by bluedino »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #38
rorykoehler wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went from late 2013 13 inch to the 2016 16 inch (maxed everything but the graphics). I also hate the touchbar. Things like volume control that used to be a tap away are now hidden in sub screens. You can switch it to only function keys but they are missing the icons for volume etc and you can't touch feel where the buttons are so I have left it in full touchbar mode. Some functions of it are actually quite cool but…

You can tweak the touch bar to put e.g. volume control on the 'home screen' if you prefer; it's hard to find though, it's under Keyboard, then the Customize Control Strip button at the bottom.

I have the problem where the TouchBar goes blank and it's not even detected by the system any longer (System Preferences - Keyboard) and I have to reboot to get the controls back.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Post by zedpm »

Hmm, I have the 6-core i7 version of the 16-inch MBP, and I'm driving two 2560 x 1440 displays (in addition to the built-in display). I have Chrome open with dozens of tabs, lots of other apps running, etc. and I haven't noticed any unexpected fan load.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Post by pier25 »

dep_b wrote: post #191
pier25 wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did the same with the 2011 MBP fiasco. Ministry of truth at work.

I have a 2011 here still going strong. Looking like new after all of the free replacements, LOL. I guess that GPU either fried over and over by now or came from a lucky batch.

Mine collected dust for almost 2 years until they announced the repair program. It came too late. I ended up giving it to a junior dev which used it for another year before dying again.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Post by bluedino »

gwbas1c wrote: post #110

One thing I miss about Steve Jobs is that he hated fan noise. The fact that Macs only made noise under extreme load was something that I really appreciated. I'm at a loss for what I'm going to do for my next laptop. Windows 10 still has performance issues that Macs don't have, but Windows laptops clearly have better hardware. Anyone make the switch back to Windows? (Every time I try Linux it feels like a dumpster fir…

>> One thing I miss about Steve Jobs is that he hated fan noise.

We also had Macs with heat related problems back then. Most of the fanless designs were 'bad'. G4 Cube, Trashcan Pro...And even though they had fans, does anyone remember how hot the first few Intel MacBook Pro's got? Yowza.

To be fair, my Thinkpad fans come on quite often (more in Windows than Linux which is strange), and they are higher-pitched and generally louder and more annoying than any of my Mac fans are.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Post by karaterobot »

bluedino wrote: post #172

There isn't anything wrong here. One of the confusing issues is that people say, "I'm only using 15% of my CPU, the fans should not be coming on." What they don't realize, is that using 1 core running at turbo speeds is only going to show up as 15% of the CPU, but draw enough power and create enough heat to trigger the fans! Another thing that some of these posters are not aware of, is that running these temperature/…

Fair point, but the issue that might be pointing to this being a problem is that the same thing didn't happen on a laptop from 4 years ago:

> We DID NOT notice this on our 2015 MacBooks...

So, if a much older laptop with lower specs wasn't engaging the fan while performing the same tasks, something may very well be wrong (at some level: I have no diagnosis for what the issue could be).

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Post by [deleted] »

bluedino wrote: post #172

There isn't anything wrong here. One of the confusing issues is that people say, "I'm only using 15% of my CPU, the fans should not be coming on." What they don't realize, is that using 1 core running at turbo speeds is only going to show up as 15% of the CPU, but draw enough power and create enough heat to trigger the fans! Another thing that some of these posters are not aware of, is that running these temperature/…

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Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Post by floatingatoll »

I laughed at OP misspelling “fan talk” in the throwaway account’s name. Then I flagged this, because it’s the third time this past week that someone has tried to rabble-rouse about fan noise with a link to poor data and/or extensive discussion threads with terrible quality data and no summary.

A meta-analysis of this discussion would have been super interesting. A link to Apple’s equivalent of a Reddit post is not, especially from a throwaway account.

I feel bad for the people with fan noise but this is not the way to handle it. Please do better. Collect data, measure power draw, and most of all document how you performed your tests so that you can start asking others to perform those exact tests, to your specifications. More science, less complaining, please.

Re: MacBook 16-inch Fan Noise (2019)

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Post by selectodude »

missosoup wrote: post #187
stouset wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This argument gets more and more ridiculous as time progresses. Apple is worth nearly ten times what it was eight years ago. It’s launched a watch which has, in a few short years, overtaken the entire Swiss watch industry in revenue. This is just another take on the tired argument that Apple is only successful because of a core group of fanboys/girls who will buy anything just because it’s Apple, despite Apple’s cust…

I set some fairly short term and trivially verifiable predictions. Save this comment and come back to it at the end of this year. Unless Apple's AR play succeeds, they're going to be left in the dust by Chinese offerings with better functionality at half the price. Cook has had the better part of the decade to come up with something new, and has failed to deliver anything except incremental minor updates which are in…

Let's see your AAPL puts then.
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