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Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

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Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

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Post by harimau777 »

davidw wrote: post #174
harimau777 wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not clear to me from that article: Did the plan that they were opposing provide any assurances that the houses built would be good quality? The people quoted state that their concern is that overcrowded or low quality public housing[1] would be built. If the law addresses their stated concerns and they still oppose it then I think that it's fair to criticize them. However, I don't think it's fair to just assume…

> "we don't want anyone who isn't upper middle class" This is precisely what it is. They're teachers , for crying out loud. The US hasn't really done 'giant tower block' public housing for decades. That's just scare tactics.

In that case, then I think it would be reasonable to criticize them. Although, it still seems to me that it wouldn't hurt to put something in the law that specifically says that they won't build giant tower blocks.

Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

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Post by GhettoChild »

rayiner wrote: post #142
davidw wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think your comment is a good one. > Houston is one of, if not the, most ethnically diverse city in the US. It's worth pointing out that this is in no small part because Houston is affordable. I don't care for that kind of sprawl and would prefer other ways of building 'enough' to be affordable ( https://www.sightline.org/2017/09/21/yes-you-can-build-your-... ) but still, it is affordable, and there are a lot of opp…

> It's worth pointing out that this is in no small part because Houston is affordable. This is an under appreciated point. Texas in general, has some of the most organically diverse places I’ve been to. Low taxes, low regulation, and low housing costs have done a lot to attract a diverse set of people from the rest of the country, and from other countries. It’s a place where people of color are building families, bus…

This is so true. I grew up in California and was led to believe that it was one of the most diverse places yet it does not hold a candle to where I live now in Houston.

Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

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Post by lotsofpulp »

rayiner wrote: post #122
jedberg wrote: post #83

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But on the upside, in Texas you might be able to live in a community with real, integrated diversity.

As far as I could tell, everyone in Dallas/Austin/Houston/San Antonio lives in gated communities with almost nothing in walking distance and very, very few people walking around.

Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

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Post by formerchamp »

m_ke wrote: post #81
jedberg wrote: post #55

Every person I know who's left California did it because of housing costs (except for one, who did it to get away from "the damn liberal government that wants to take my guns"). We have a major housing cost crisis in this state, as well as a big NIMBY problem. There have been good solutions run up through the state house, that either fail to pass or get so watered down they are no longer effective, in large part beca…

All of the people I know who left NYC also left because of housing costs, even though New York has been putting up new housing at an insane rate. https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/mortgages/migration-study/

It doesn't help when there are insane regulations like dedicating double digit percentage of new units to be "affordable"/subsidized/section 8. Anyone with a full time minimum wage job would not qualify for "affordable" housing, you literally have to not work at all, it's such a scam.

Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

whalesalad wrote: post #102

My wife and I moved here to California (my home state) mid-2018 from Michigan (her home state). We moved out here for a startup, but shortly after relocating the founder ran out of money and could no longer pay me. This was a huge shock because on the surface everything was fine and dandy. Got totally bamboozled. I still remember walking into our co-working spot to pick up some mail and was told that I should leave t…

I am curious what a "killer salary" looks like in Orange County, compared to LA and SFBA (assuming it's a tech job).

Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

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Post by sjg007 »

jedberg wrote: post #146
harimau777 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What gets built next to someone's home can affect their quality of life (e.g. due to noise, pollution, increased traffic, blocking sunlight, blocking views, etc.). So I don't see why they shouldn't have a say. It's no different than any other negative externality.

Their say is their ability to move away. Neighborhoods change. The irony is that when they moved in, their neighbors were complaining about all the change happening. Here in Cupertino, everyone says, "this should all be single family homes!". If you look at the old newspapers from the 30s and 40s, everyone was saying, "We should remain farmland!". Why is it that the people who built the single family homes happen to…

The way to do this is to repeal prop 13. This will force people to sell and move.

Re: Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois – Hello where?

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Post by reaperducer »

blahneverdies wrote: post #37
siculars wrote: post #9

Having left NYC for Texas 5 years ago, I can confirm the grass is greener on the other side.

I'd assume that grass was brown and dead. (But no state taxes would be nice.)

I'd assume that grass was brown and dead.

Only if everything you know about Texas you learned from cartoons.

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Post by misiti3780 »

I live in NYC now but I dont know how long I will stay here. You cant really buy an apartment for < 1MM and the taxes are out of control. NY State has to be one of the worst states to live in right now. NYC even has a mansion tax on any house purchased over 1MM dollars, and manhattan has a huge amount of empty high end condos now because no one wants to buy them
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