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Psilocybin found safe for consumption in largest ever controlled study

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Post by simonebrunozzi »

lowdose wrote: post #177
mda wrote: post #176

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Well there is a saying "It is easy for a single man to divorce a wife". I am not sure his suggestion is practical also tone is terrible. I hope they can cope with other people who are being "brutally honest" with them being a jerk in real life.

I read love your wife more in the morning because her soliciting other guys in front of you is the most obvious sign she will give before filing for a divorce herself. If no one tells you this , you can't solve problem number one. Problem number one always results in no sex followed by a system break down hence the princess comment. In the western society women initiate 2/3 of the divorces. GP is nuanced giving a hel…

> In the western society women initiate 2/3 of the divorces.

Interesting. Source?

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Post by KennyCason »

pmoriarty wrote: post #119
goldcd wrote: post #107

This is sub-anecdotal, I know - but I recently after many years of "don't mess with my head" took mirtazapine for mild-depression/over-awareness-of-the-actual-state-of-the-world-around-me. I feel better. Only noticeable effects were that I fell asleep much faster and woke up (refreshed) remembering all manner of weird clear dreams. Previously was one of those people who for the last decade couldn't recall a single dr…

"I fell asleep much faster and woke up (refreshed) remembering all manner of weird clear dreams. Previously was one of those people who for the last decade couldn't recall a single dream (and had trouble nodding off)." Just another anecdote, but I've found many techniques that have worked for me to greatly enhance my dream recall that don't require any drugs. The first technique is just to get interested in dreams, r…

This sounds very identical to my process as well. I obsess about recalling as many of my dreams as I can when I wake up. I have a similar experience all the way down to trying to not move my body or so anything that can disrupt my dream recall, including avoiding actively thinking about my dream (similar to a meditative state).

The only difference is that I don’t record anything after. I find that just thinking about it a few times after I wake up is enough for my satisfaction. Dreams are very powerful tools for thought that I think society could benefit more from.

Re: Psilocybin found safe for consumption in largest ever controlled study

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Post by zeristor »

mnky9800n wrote: post #181
malux85 wrote: post #167

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No, your conclusion is bullshit. > First, any given trip alleviates depression for about a month or two. That makes sense to me in a sense that the word "trip" isn't a coincidence-- a really fun intense vacation in a foreign country also alleviates depression for a month or two. You swear that when you come back things will be different, but then you have to answer slack messages at 9pm, and your project is slipping…

Also, drugs only work in combination with talk therapy. It's amazing how many people argue for everything under the sun except talk therapy.

Why do you say that?

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Post by collyw »

karpodiem wrote: post #178
coffeemug wrote: post #130

Counter-anecdote: I've experimented with this stuff extensively in various settings and have known many other people who did, and in my experience it's unequivocally bullshit. Here's what happens. First, any given trip alleviates depression for about a month or two. That makes sense to me in a sense that the word "trip" isn't a coincidence-- a really fun intense vacation in a foreign country also alleviates depressio…

Take the red pill - go to the gym and get jacked. It will solve many of your problems.

There are so many interesting ways of getting / staying fit. Rock Climbing, Skiing, Mountain Biking, Hiking. They often involve going to beautiful locations or at the very least getting out of the city.

Why you would suggest the gym (repetitive activity with a load of other sweaty people) is beyond me...

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Post by hetspookjee »

malux85 wrote: post #167
coffeemug wrote: post #130

Counter-anecdote: I've experimented with this stuff extensively in various settings and have known many other people who did, and in my experience it's unequivocally bullshit. Here's what happens. First, any given trip alleviates depression for about a month or two. That makes sense to me in a sense that the word "trip" isn't a coincidence-- a really fun intense vacation in a foreign country also alleviates depressio…

No, your conclusion is bullshit. > First, any given trip alleviates depression for about a month or two. That makes sense to me in a sense that the word "trip" isn't a coincidence-- a really fun intense vacation in a foreign country also alleviates depression for a month or two. You swear that when you come back things will be different, but then you have to answer slack messages at 9pm, and your project is slipping…

It's almost tragic that, perhaps due to the mushrooms, he was able to pinpoint the things that made him unhappy in his life but instead of acting on this newly gained knowledge, points the blame to the thing that made him able to see what the actual problems were.

I've taken multiple times as I find it fun to do but there was this one time I took it when I didn't feel good and just took it kinda out of boredom and it hit me in the face that I was making some major mistakes in my life and I needed to turn these around. I felt awful the entire trip but thanks to the newly gained insights I was able to actually act and change myself for the better. LSD never changed any of my problems but it made me aware what they actually were in a more concrete sense.

To put it bluntly I was unhappy without really knowing why, and after LSD I was unhappy and knowing why. I don't believe psychadelics will ever resolve your problems, you just gain new insights on your issues and it'll still be up to you - in a sober state I presume - to act on these insights.

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Post by outime »

simonebrunozzi wrote: post #191
lowdose wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read love your wife more in the morning because her soliciting other guys in front of you is the most obvious sign she will give before filing for a divorce herself. If no one tells you this , you can't solve problem number one. Problem number one always results in no sex followed by a system break down hence the princess comment. In the western society women initiate 2/3 of the divorces. GP is nuanced giving a hel…

> In the western society women initiate 2/3 of the divorces. Interesting. Source?

I found this by quickly googling https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/08/150822154900.h... but there are more sources as well. From my anecdotal non-scientific observational experience it seems completely doable.

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Post by op00to »

lowdose wrote: post #174
malux85 wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, your conclusion is bullshit. > First, any given trip alleviates depression for about a month or two. That makes sense to me in a sense that the word "trip" isn't a coincidence-- a really fun intense vacation in a foreign country also alleviates depression for a month or two. You swear that when you come back things will be different, but then you have to answer slack messages at 9pm, and your project is slipping…

Brutal honesty at its best. If everyone had the guts to talk this tone to their boss the world would look a lot better.

What was good about that post? It sounded like gross generalizations and deep seated resentment, with not a touch of “honesty”.

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Post by say_it_as_it_is »

yawned wrote: post #121
say_it_as_it_is wrote: post #96

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Sativa-dominant strains have psychedelic qualities, offering dramatic introspective, frame-shifting experience. It isn't as profound an experience as one from psilocybin, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I've experienced realizations while under the influence of sativa dominant strains similar to, if not greater than, those uncovered during therapy with a psychologist. However, other times the re-framing of re…

Throwaway because I don't like to tell people I smoke. I must echo this entire post. I'm able to learn so much about myself when high. Far more personal than a therapist ever gets. I do introspection sessions after smoking. I smoke twice a week and do at most 5 hours of introspecting every week. This year I'm doing every other quarter. After smoking I think about how to better myself and insights just flow in perhaps…

Try listening to cognitive behavior therapy audio books while under the influence. I can't go too far into a chapter without pausing and losing myself in contemplation. Listening while under the influence is a great way to trigger introspection.

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Post by stefek99 »

Majority of my mental energy in relation to drugs, some consideration:

- having a mortgage and life insurance attached to it

- parents prevented contact with their children due to government intervention

- people in jail for possession of drugs

- safe driving limits

- undoing 50+ years of propaganda and social conditioning

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Post by _8j50 »

coffeemug wrote: post #130

Counter-anecdote: I've experimented with this stuff extensively in various settings and have known many other people who did, and in my experience it's unequivocally bullshit. Here's what happens. First, any given trip alleviates depression for about a month or two. That makes sense to me in a sense that the word "trip" isn't a coincidence-- a really fun intense vacation in a foreign country also alleviates depressio…

First,hope everything is ok with you, if not, I hope it will be :)

Second, you're talking about curing the disease and I agree with you 100%. I don't like or promote psychedelics but from what I understand they are in this context to be seen as solutions to symptoms much like antidepressants and pain killers where they merely give you enough breathing room to where you can focus on fixing the root cause instead of chasing after ways to alleviate symptoms.

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