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Google Kills Cloud Print

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Cloud Print is how I print from my Chromebook right? Do they have a replacement? I use this service daily.

According to their support article they are developing some.printing infrastructure for chrome OS to be released before deprecation of cloud print. https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/9633006

Printing is already supported. It's the enterprise management bits that are still being developed.

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>It's enterprise-ready Hahahahahaha oh man they actually wrote that. Sorry for the useless comment, but I just wonder how many companies got conned into basing their printing infrastructure on yet another Google experiment. I don't think it really matters, of course. Android phones have a full set of manufacturer-specific printing drivers which work fine over the local network, and geofft noted upthread that ChromeOS…

Sadly not for all printers, my printer requires an awful app that does everything itself. Not acceptable! But yeah, Cloud Print doesn't seem to have been particularly widely used or supported.

I can't speak to "widely used" but it is "widely supported".

It's on the specs page for most HP and Brother networked printers, and probably most others.

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I know Microsoft gets a lot of flak for their historical support of legacy systems, but on the flip-side it means that as an enterprise you trust that they won't abruptly deprecate something you use.

My 13 year old son can no longer play a large part of our Steam library because many of the games he enjoys are 32-bit only (Geometry Dash, for one) and we've upgraded to MacOS Catalina.

My old copy of Adobe Photoshop CS6 also cannot be installed because the installer is 32-bit, although there's reports if you had it installed before upgrading you can force it to run.

I can rollback my son's laptop, but I am on the new 16" MBP which ships with Catalina. Annoyed is putting it mildly.

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Google has the corporate equivalent of ADHD. Having talked with ex-googlers and current googlers, the problem seems to be deeply baked into their culture. The incentive structures seem to favor the sexy over the boring, making it much more likely that someone will get promoted for launching products versus growing one. The fix seems to be obvious, create a separate path, a maintenance and growth hacker path, where pe…

They should just sell their dead products. I know they don't need money, but someone could probably maintain the Cloud Print codebase and add value to the world.

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What’s the alternative for printing from Android devices?

To your own printer? Bluetooth or Wifi. I've got a Canon TS9150 printer and I can connect to it from my phone via wifi, either directly - phone to printer - or if the printer is on your wifi network, that way. Canon have an app for android phones that help you connect to your printer which works quite well.

Is this really a better user experience?

On a Mac or any iOS device you just connect to a network and all of the printers just show up. You don’t need an app. I have a newer iPad but even my old first generation iPad that hasn’t seen an operating system update since 2011 will print to any of my three AirPrint printers.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the last time I had an Android device in my house (my son’s) don’t you still have to install separate printer drivers for printers if they don’t support Google Cloud Print?

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Sadly not for all printers, my printer requires an awful app that does everything itself. Not acceptable! But yeah, Cloud Print doesn't seem to have been particularly widely used or supported.

Try out the "Mopria print service" (mobile printing alliance), most big manufacturers are part of it. They provide a generic driver app for Android that works for mobile printing with models from multiple manufacturers.

It "powers the Samsung print service." The one that always says my printer is offline.

"Your document may pass through multiple servers. Is that ok?"

Sigh.

And it printed simplex.

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What's the expected value of not having your brand known for routinely canceling products without much notice? It seems like any company would have to be crazy to want to depend on any new Google service for anything important - and that's bad for Google.

Do you use cloud print?

I have yes - at our office I just bought some cloud print enabled printers so that I could print without some quirks in the AD deployment and remotely. That said, I'm sure traction was low - I saw VERY few others using it. Still very annoying.

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Google has the corporate equivalent of ADHD. Having talked with ex-googlers and current googlers, the problem seems to be deeply baked into their culture. The incentive structures seem to favor the sexy over the boring, making it much more likely that someone will get promoted for launching products versus growing one. The fix seems to be obvious, create a separate path, a maintenance and growth hacker path, where pe…

They should just sell their dead products. I know they don't need money, but someone could probably maintain the Cloud Print codebase and add value to the world.

They would mean selling all documents ever printed using their product.

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Google has the corporate equivalent of ADHD. Having talked with ex-googlers and current googlers, the problem seems to be deeply baked into their culture. The incentive structures seem to favor the sexy over the boring, making it much more likely that someone will get promoted for launching products versus growing one. The fix seems to be obvious, create a separate path, a maintenance and growth hacker path, where pe…

They should just sell their dead products. I know they don't need money, but someone could probably maintain the Cloud Print codebase and add value to the world.

I've heard numerous times about how everything inside Google is so tightly coupled to their infrastructure that making it work outside is extremely difficult.

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I wonder if they gave any of the hardware vendors who proudly advertised, "Google Cloud-Print Ready" on the side of the box more advanced notice than this.

A years notice is quite a lot... I doubt many printer manufacturers go more than a year without revising the designs at least a little.

> A years notice is quite a lot...

For a device you already bought? Not really. How often do you replace your printer?

If you rely on GCP for your home/home-office/small business, you might be a little peeved to discover that your several-hundred-dollar printer might be reduced to a "dumb"/local-only printer next year because the manufacturer decided to rely on a closed-source third-party service for what you consider core functionality of your printer.

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