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Thousands flock to Wikipedia founder's 'Facebook rival'

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Re: Thousands flock to Wikipedia founder's 'Facebook rival'

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I made an account and am on a waiting list. It wants me to invite people to bump myself up in the queue. Or pay.

The site looks very 2000s PHP CMS. I'm not sure what it is. I searched for a topic I'm interested in, something came up, and I clicked...and it bumped me back to the main page where it shows my place in the list.

Why would I invite people or pay money for something if I have no idea what I'm getting?

Re: Thousands flock to Wikipedia founder's 'Facebook rival'

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Absolutely agree. I hate this trend of measuring success by comparing small products to massive bloated giants of tech. You don't have to get to that level to be a success, and you're honestly probably better off if you don't. Big social media companies are now seen as responsible for the destruction and compromise of democracy and have many more problems which wouldn't exist if they weren't so universally adopted. I…

The usefulness of a general "social network" is how many people it has. If I can't find almost everyone I know on it, and they are on a different platform (Facebook) it's easier for me to just use the other platform. People feel like they need it to keep in touch with others they don't see often (or even just others in general). I personally don't have any major social media accounts, just small ones like HN - but I…

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Re: Thousands flock to Wikipedia founder's 'Facebook rival'

#194

To all the people poking fun at "thousands"... You have to start somewhere, and I'm sure you'd be tickled pink to see thousands of new users signing up for your app...

You'd think you would need a lot more than "thousands" for it to be called an actual trend worthy of an article.

Re: Thousands flock to Wikipedia founder's 'Facebook rival'

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If I was the co-founder of one of the top websites in the world that had to pivot from my shitty news organization into what looks like a shitty version of Diaspora, I’m not so sure I’d be thrilled with “thousands.” You need network effects for social network rivals to take off. That isn’t to say there won’t be a Facebook successor (there almost certainly will be one — the big challenge for Facebook is if it has a pi…

> Mastadon, and any other number of attempts at this have failed (calling Mastadon a failure is unfair, but its not Twitter and won’t ever be), so will this. Who says that success should be measured by Twitter? It may be that no other social network approaches Twitter and Facebook in size given their dominance, but that doesn't mean that there can be no other social networks. In my opinion, one-size-fits-all social w…

To think of Twitter as one-size-fits-all is a mistake. People aren’t staying connected with just friends and family like Facebook.

It’s scale allows niches to spontaneously coalesce and grow stronger over time.

Re: Thousands flock to Wikipedia founder's 'Facebook rival'

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> Mastadon, and any other number of attempts at this have failed (calling Mastadon a failure is unfair, but its not Twitter and won’t ever be), so will this. Who says that success should be measured by Twitter? It may be that no other social network approaches Twitter and Facebook in size given their dominance, but that doesn't mean that there can be no other social networks. In my opinion, one-size-fits-all social w…

Mastodon is successful for sure, but it isn't successful enough to overcome the incumbent in the space, which is what we're talking about. That isn't a bad thing, but it's important to add that context when looking at anything else that is being heralded as "the next X." That's literally why I added the caveat of saying "Mastodon isn't a failure" -- but it hasn't overcome the incumbent and it won't and that may not h…

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Re: Thousands flock to Wikipedia founder's 'Facebook rival'

#197

While 160,000 is a very small number compared to Facebook's user base, it's two orders of magnitude more than what the "thousands"in the title made me imagine. A more generous title would have used something like "a sixth of a million".

Someone else in the thread is implying it’s closer to 190k. At any rate we are now into “hundreds of thousands”.

241693 right now.

Re: Thousands flock to Wikipedia founder's 'Facebook rival'

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Well can't say I'm not curious, but €90 a year is a lot of money. To pay that for just another service for procrastination? Maybe I'll pass. Although I definitely support the idea.

it's the old saying: "if you're not paying for using a product or you're not being paid to use a product, that means that you're the product". Deciding to pass on a service that asks you money to offer you a service is completely fine, as long as you don't later complain about "privacy issues" and "massive surveillance".

You can have advertising without "privacy issues" and "massive surveillance". I would say that google does a much better job of it than Facebook.

Another option would be to have voluntary donations, like wikipedia.

I'm not going to pay $10/month for a curated new feed which I can do myself for free, and probably do a better job of it.

Re: Thousands flock to Wikipedia founder's 'Facebook rival'

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Absolutely agree. I hate this trend of measuring success by comparing small products to massive bloated giants of tech. You don't have to get to that level to be a success, and you're honestly probably better off if you don't. Big social media companies are now seen as responsible for the destruction and compromise of democracy and have many more problems which wouldn't exist if they weren't so universally adopted. I…

The usefulness of a general "social network" is how many people it has. If I can't find almost everyone I know on it, and they are on a different platform (Facebook) it's easier for me to just use the other platform. People feel like they need it to keep in touch with others they don't see often (or even just others in general). I personally don't have any major social media accounts, just small ones like HN - but I…

Are general social networks actually useful though? In mature markets, you have a huge chunk of people that have logged off Facebook permanently.

What matters is the people I want to interact with, and in Seattle they are on Mastodon. Not everyone needs to be on it, and frankly if close to everyone were on it you'd potentially drive away a good subset of users. That being said, by design I can retain my feed of friends on Mastodon without fear of some corporation or eternal spring of new users wrecking it.

Re: Thousands flock to Wikipedia founder's 'Facebook rival'

#200
Unpopular Opinion: the core problem with facebook or any social network is the people inhabiting it. I dont think simply offering an alternative with X removed and Y enhanced will solve the problem. Its like the old saying "no matter where you go, there you are..."
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