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Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Okay, I think I've got this figured out. Can someone check my working? https://imgur.com/a/GVdsG7r Color key: Green: Apple set-top box Yellow: App for Apple set-top box Orange: App for other Apple devices Red: App for third-party devices Yellow/Orange/Red stripe: App generally across all platforms Violet: Integrated external subscription content Blue: Apple subscription content Violet/Blue stripe: Content generally R…

See also: Apple TV (disambiguation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_TV_(disambiguation) Original programming for Apple TV+ seems to be very good. First three episodes for the "For All Mankind" (scifi) are good so are the three episodes for "See". The "The Morning Show" seems to be very good although I'm not in the target audience.

See is the only one that piques my interest. How would you rate it as a sci-fi on its own merit? (without bringing Apple vs. The World into it or giving away any spoilers)

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What is the point of separating the macOS, iOS and tvOS apps into three? I think it unnecessarily complicates the thing. They are all mostly the same and only differ by the content they can play, which depends on third party support. Case in point: once you have defined the three terms, you only use the striped one except at the very end to highlight one difference, which only depends on hardware.

DRM levels?

This is actually the most plausible reason. Macs for example got the ability to play your purchased 4K content long after tvOS.

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What about Rust? Cant it solve the problem?

You're thinking of Haskell. Apparently it solves all the problems.

Fools, Electron is the One True Messiah.

It solves all problems by leaving no memory and battery for them to happen in.

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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cannot reproduce on my machine

That's nice for you, do you work for Apple?

Without getting into the reductive "Do you work for a competitor to Apple" counter-argument, I also don't have any trouble scrolling with a Apple TV remote.

It's possible for people to have different experiences or standards without being paid trolls, but I guess I'm graciously assuming you're not a paid troll. Which, by the way, is the rule around here: be gracious.

Re: Apple TV, Apple TV, Apple TV, and Apple TV+

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Netflix refers to a company, an app, a third-party app on some Smart TVs, and a subscription service, but people don’t generally get confused. Consistent branding isn’t necessarily a bad thing. That said, Apple’s support for third-party Smart TV apps is actually quite unusual IMHO; this really reduces their usual control over quality and experience.

Is it really inconsistent branding, though? To me, every one of these Netflixes is the same: the Netflix on my phone, tablet, TV, games console, and the website are all the same product . For Apple TV, however, the exact same name is used to refer to multiple different products and experiences: the device, the app on the device, the app on different devices, and many of these experiences differ significantly.

Ultimately, it seems like there are two different Apple TV products, but not more than that.

There's the device, and there's the app/service. The difference from Netflix is that Netflix doesn't sell hardware also called Netflix.

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Exactly. Now I feel a bit bad because I'm not confused at all - it just all works.

It all works juuuuust until it doesn't and you have to upgrade to the next tier. I assume the experience will be like the one i had with netflix, where once i had a 4k tv i realized i HAD to upgrade my account and internet bandwidth coz otherwise stuff would look blurry and buffer(for kids who can't tell why stuff doesn't look as good as on the neighbors device) Obviously not a problem for people who can just buy all…

Bad assumption. Apple TV+ has only one price, no tiers of service like Netflix.

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Microsoft has gone through some pretty dark times w.r.t. naming stuff. Up there with "Windows" everything and absurdities like ".net Passport" was their unslakable thirst for "Active." ActiveX, Active Server Pages, Active Data Objects. However, none of it holds a candle to IBM's mania for making everything "Websphere."

naming things definitely isn't there strong point having to click the "start" button to shut down your computer is probably the most illogical one. and somehow it managed to stay that way for 15 years until someone got the bright idea to just but an icon there instead "microsoft windows phone 7 series" was a mouth full compared to "apple iphone". luckily they changed that soon after but its crazy to think of the amou…

As I like to point out, on macOS you click on an icon of literal fruit to shutdown the computer.

The first time Win95 was started, a giant arrow pointed to the start button. It was rather discoverable.

Now Win8, I had to look up how to shut it down, the rtm version was a UX disaster.

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Dark times are still happening. Right now they're renaming everything Azure regardless of whether it's part of their cloud offerings. Also, Live was another Microsoft naming phase. For me, the canary in the coal mine of ms naming is their messenger. Msn messenger, live messenger, Skype, Skype for business, Teams... I assume the next iteration will be named Azure Teams.

I give you msn and live messenger. All the other ones are literally different products each. I expect different products to have different names. Why there were so many messenger products is a different question. Anyone from Google wanna jump in and explain this one? ;)

Skype had its guts ripped out and replaced with MSN shortly after the purchase.

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Hotmail is the spammy one. Live is the one for gaming. Outlook is the business one.

Except outlook is the app you install on android or iOS to access your Outlook.com personal email, which is really hotmail, but not to be confused with outlook web access, which is the web interface to exchange’s mail. There’s also the outlook that’s part of office 365 for windows, which is “the business one”, except it is also in the office 365 personal edition, which you are not allowed to use for business, and tha…

The Windows mail client was called Windows Live Mail for a while, and the mail service was called Windows Live Hotmail. The gaming platform, video editor and photo viewer were also all inexplicably Windows Live.

It surprises me that they didn't release 'Windows Live Office' in that era.

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Here's the fun part: if I type in Hotmail.com into my browser, I'm redirected to a page titled 'Outlook' that's on a subdomain of Live.com (outlook.live.com) But if I type in Live.com, I'm redirected to the same page that says 'Outlook' but is actually outlook.live.com So Hotmail is Outlook but Outlook is Live.com but Live.com itself is Outlook

yeah, but I'm pretty sure that mess is all Outlook.com underneath. I use gmail but also have an outlook account under the new service.

The branding is Outlook.com, but I think it's still the old Hotmail/Live infrastructure underneath.
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