Open-source apps removed from Google Play Store due to donation links

Post by tomatotomato37 » Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 1:49 PM UTC

lern_too_spel wrote: post #184

Santosh83 wrote: post #180

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This is one aspect and admittedly Android is better than Apple, but the other aspect (and more fundamental) is the ability to gain root on the system and do whatever you wish, and here both Google and Android (in the former case if not Google themselves then all the 3rd party Android vendors) lock down their devices. Rooting through exploits is not an acceptable solution.

All Google phones and Android One devices have unlockable bootloaders.

Post by xnyan » Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 1:49 PM UTC

whalesalad wrote: post #177

djsumdog wrote: post #138

The Apple/Play stores are essentially a totally broken implementation of something that had existed for over a decade before: package repositories. It's embraced and extended Linux/BSD package/ports trees, except without things like the ability to add a 3rd party repository with other authors signing keys, pin certain versions, etc. https://battlepenguin.com/tech/android-fragmentation/#packag... We could go on about…

Your analogy is certainly interesting... but expecting everyone to want or know how to look under the hood of their car is a little delusional. Most people don’t even know or care to check their oil. They drive from A to B and only take their car in for service when a light is illuminated on the dash or if it’s making a funny noise. Personally, I do all my own maintenance and love to look under my hood. My wife? She’…

Post by dogma1138 » Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 1:50 PM UTC

flanbiscuit wrote: post #165

mschuster91 wrote: post #87

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Or in Germany to get an emergency court order ("Einstweilige Verfügung"), dunno if the US has a similar legal venue. At least with an EV you get the immediate attention of their legal department.

Does GDPR cover these kind of issues where accounts/apps are demonetized or taken down because of some automated process mistake?

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 1:52 PM UTC

Santosh83 wrote: post #180

Steltek wrote: post #169

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Don't conflate Apple's monopoly with Google's store. Anyone can go install F-Droid or Amazon or whatever on their Android phone. The only thing stopping people is satisfaction with the status quo and/or ignorance. However, Apple totally rules their walled garden, with some added gross exploitation to boot (recent "Sherlocking" story for Luna Display).

This is one aspect and admittedly Android is better than Apple, but the other aspect (and more fundamental) is the ability to gain root on the system and do whatever you wish, and here both Google and Android (in the former case if not Google themselves then all the 3rd party Android vendors) lock down their devices. Rooting through exploits is not an acceptable solution.

Post by lm28469 » Wed, Oct 16, 2019, 1:53 PM UTC

jtbayly wrote: post #133

lm28469 wrote: post #119

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Yes, we, as tech workers. Most people aren't "us". It's perfectly understandable for places like the android/apple app stores to be heavily moderated. Same reasoning for forcing people to have their cars serviced by mechanics and not do their own maintenance in their backyards. Otherwise we'd have people driving cars without pipes and DIY break pads. I'd much rather have that enforced by megacorps/govt than by an inf…

Yikes. Really? Where do you live? I can’t imagine living someplace where I’m forbidden from picking up a wrench. Heaven forbid I buy some PVC pipe. Who knows what mischief I might get up to! For the record, I do my own break pads. And have done the master cylinder (thing that powers the breaks) on my cars a couple of times. Not just without formal training. Without any training except what I could quickly Google.