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Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by naikrovek »

lucb1e wrote: post #110
zokier wrote: post #31

Considering that Windows has been supporting multiple displays for what, 20 years now, it feels bit odd to make that the headline feature

Yeah I'm really wondering why it is news that Windows runs on a device that has 2 screens connected. Can anyone who upvoted explain what was interesting about this? Or if you didn't, at least why we need a new version of Windows to do the same as standard Windows already could?

It has dual monitor awareness built in and assumed, which vanilla Windows 10 does not.

For example, tapping a link on one screen opens the browser on the opposite screen, always.

That simply doesn't happen on vanilla Windows 10, as the OS isn't aware of the concept of multiple displays at that level. To most of Windows, you appear to simply have a single large display when you are using multiple displays. There are plenty of things with multiple monitor awareness, but it isn't inherent as it is with 10 X.

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Post by mav3rick »

dageshi wrote: post #146
mav3rick wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really ? So lugging a USB monitor vs having on a device. Which one would most users prefer ? Don't say "oh the external can be of higher res". Portability is a big win.

Many who do serious work on laptops lug around bluetooth keyboards + mice + laptop stands so the ergonomics aren't crippling. Adding external screens (which are generally very light) isn't a big add.

We also don't need phones. Let's carry an LTE dongle with our laptops. I am glad comments sections don't design products.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by mav3rick »

scarface74 wrote: post #132
mav3rick wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really ? So lugging a USB monitor vs having on a device. Which one would most users prefer ? Don't say "oh the external can be of higher res". Portability is a big win.

How much lighter is a second screen attach to the device than an iPad - which weighs 1.07 pounds or the iPad Mini that weighs 2/3s of a pound?

Are you adding the weight of the bag you now need to carry for the screen ? Or will you lug it in hand with a USB cable ?

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by comfrey »

dmix wrote: post #107
asenna wrote: post #72

For people saying dual screen is a gimmick, have you not wanted to replicate multi-screen setup on your laptop (while traveling or when not on your desktop)? Power users have always wanted more screen real estate! I've been eyeing the Asus Zenbook Pro Duo[1] ever since they've been announced (currently using a Macbook Pro 2015). I usually carry around an Asus portable second screen for my laptop in my backpack and th…

I'm happy to see that Asus managed to find a way to keep the Escape key even while taking up way more space than Touchbar. Apple has no excuse. Still I'd personally rather use efficient tiling software + tabbing between spaces than have to look down at distractions. I'm amazed no major OS developer has tried to deliver this as an advanced mode. It's the type of thing that would benefit from direct OS integration. Mos…

Courage over Escapism always /s

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by naikrovek »

al2o3cr wrote: post #155

Was there any specific mention of the device's thickness? The photos look like each side is about the same as a typical tablet, which would make this thing a pretty chonky boi when folded...

5.6mm per side, I think? Might have been 5.4mm.

Each side can be an inch thick, I don't care, as long as the battery lasts a while.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by scarface74 »

mav3rick wrote: post #192
dageshi wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many who do serious work on laptops lug around bluetooth keyboards + mice + laptop stands so the ergonomics aren't crippling. Adding external screens (which are generally very light) isn't a big add.

We also don't need phones. Let's carry an LTE dongle with our laptops. I am glad comments sections don't design products.

Most Windows users especially do seem to at least carry around a mouse with their laptops. Carrying a 2/3 pound - 1 pound iPad in your laptop bag is also something a lot of travelers do.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by AmericanChopper »

dmix wrote: post #107
asenna wrote: post #72

For people saying dual screen is a gimmick, have you not wanted to replicate multi-screen setup on your laptop (while traveling or when not on your desktop)? Power users have always wanted more screen real estate! I've been eyeing the Asus Zenbook Pro Duo[1] ever since they've been announced (currently using a Macbook Pro 2015). I usually carry around an Asus portable second screen for my laptop in my backpack and th…

I'm happy to see that Asus managed to find a way to keep the Escape key even while taking up way more space than Touchbar. Apple has no excuse. Still I'd personally rather use efficient tiling software + tabbing between spaces than have to look down at distractions. I'm amazed no major OS developer has tried to deliver this as an advanced mode. It's the type of thing that would benefit from direct OS integration. Mos…

I’ve always found workspaces on Mac to be great, especially with swipe gestures. It’s the only laptop I’ve ever been able to sit in the couch and write reports on, which I usually need two monitors for (one for the report, the other for whatever I’m reviewing for the report).

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by mehrdadn »

datagram wrote: post #187
billziss wrote: post #183

I would much prefer it if manufacturers created a multi-screen setup with screens next to each other. I can imagine some form of folding or attachment mechanism that converts a single screen laptop to dual or triple screen. Since going "laptop only" many years ago the thing I miss the most is the multi-monitor setup that I used to have and would love it if I was eventually able to recreate this with my laptop. The id…

> I can imagine some form of folding of attachment mechanism that converts a single screen laptop to dual or triple screen. Razer is working on exactly this: https://www.razer.com/project-valerie

That looks insanely fragile?

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by scarface74 »

mav3rick wrote: post #193
scarface74 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much lighter is a second screen attach to the device than an iPad - which weighs 1.07 pounds or the iPad Mini that weighs 2/3s of a pound?

Are you adding the weight of the bag you now need to carry for the screen ? Or will you lug it in hand with a USB cable ?

Do you usually carry a laptop without a bag? How do you carry your laptop cord now? How snug is your laptop bag that you can’t put an iPad in it? Also, the iPad connects to your Macbook using WiFi. If you have an iPhone, you probably are already carrying a lightning cord - the same one that the non-pro iPads use.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by JBiserkov »

ken wrote: post #92
ndespres wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These guys just can not figure out a branding/marketing scheme that won't require overexplaining each time to figure out, and confusion by the consumer. What is a "Surface" if it's really 2 different things, with very similar names, that do completely different things and run incompatible operating systems?

> What is a "Surface" if it's really 2 different things 2? Try 6: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Surface

6?

Pro, Book, Laptop, Studio, Hub, RT/2/3/Go, Neo, Duo, Headphones, Earbuds

Also several mouses, keyboards, dial, type/touch/power covers, dock stations, pens... I must be missing something :-)

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