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Re: WARP is here

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Post by thenewnewguy »

sverige wrote: post #185
IOT_Apprentice wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A site where mass murders are encouraged to post their killing spree videos? Where hate groups and anonymous cowards promote hate, violence and other ideas? Spare us your "" defense of the indefensible.

What crime did 8chan commit? I don't mean what did they do that you don't like, I mean what actual crime?

Why are they required to have committed a crime? Cloudflare isn't the government, why do you believe they're obligated to serve 8chan?

Cloudflare took down one website that was directly related to a major tragedy that cost people their lives. If you want to complain about that go ahead, but I don't care. I don't allow people to use my websites to spread that kind of hate, and I have no problem with Cloudflare doing the same in extreme circumstances.

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Post by AznHisoka »

mwcampbell wrote: post #142
bsenftner wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I ran a small web service in the video game industry for several years, and CloudFlare was essential to our survival, as the DDoS attacks would repeat every few weeks, and at times last 6 to 12 hours at a time. CloudFlare simply ate that up, and our customers were not impacted. Today, at a different company, different industry, we use CloudFlare for similar needs, but within physical area security networks. It's esse…

Don't lots of smaller hosting providers have DDoS protection? Did you try one of those and find it wasn't good enough?

No, but a few done, precisely because they partner with Cloudflare: https://www.bluehost.com/hosting/info/cloudflare

Re: WARP is here

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Post by president »

How does the end user know if WARP is actually working? As I understand it, a regular VPN will mask your IP so you can tell very easily if you’re protected by checking your externally reported IP. How would you know with WARP?

Re: WARP is here

#194

Post by tmikaeld »

crankylinuxuser wrote: post #163
tmikaeld wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't there a lot of them? The bigger VPN providers also offer Wireguard and a simple UI (Basically click the map and you're connected).

According to Saurik, Warp IS Wireguard. https://twitter.com/saurik/status/1176893448445558784 His provided script is cache.saurik.com/twitter/wgcf.sh

Yes, it is a modified version of it. That's why I wrote "also" :)

Re: WARP is here

#195

Post by sverige »

thenewnewguy wrote: post #191
sverige wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What crime did 8chan commit? I don't mean what did they do that you don't like, I mean what actual crime?

Why are they required to have committed a crime? Cloudflare isn't the government, why do you believe they're obligated to serve 8chan? Cloudflare took down one website that was directly related to a major tragedy that cost people their lives. If you want to complain about that go ahead, but I don't care. I don't allow people to use my websites to spread that kind of hate, and I have no problem with Cloudflare doing t…

The original comment had to do with whether we should trust Cloudflare more than Facebook. If they as a company want to make editorial decisions, that's fine, but the reality is that also means they are not content agnostic. Interestingly enough, they provide services for known spammers and other shady internet operations.

As to whether 8chan 'caused' those abhorrent crimes, I couldn't say, any more than 'violent video games' caused them. I view such crimes as having a root cause of some form of mental illness, which does not (imo) relieve the doers of culpability.

The point is that they are demonstrably not exactly what they claim to be, and thus some level of distrust is warranted.

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Post by abtinf »

zackbloom wrote: post #70
abtinf wrote: post #55

Can someone explain the difference between warp and warp+? I’ve read the blog and the App Store description, both of which completely fail to identify the difference.

Hopefully I can! WARP uses a protocol called WireGuard to secure your Internet traffic. Your encrypted traffic flows over that protocol to the closest Cloudflare data center before it is released onto the public Internet. WARP+ takes that one step further. Rather than releasing your traffic directly onto the Internet, we use all the data we have from our Argo product [1] to route your traffic to _another_ Cloudflare…

Thanks, this is much more clear.

Re: WARP is here

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Post by chousuke »

IOT_Apprentice wrote: post #181
sverige wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.secureworldexpo.com/industry-news/cloudflare-sta... But it's ok, 8chan is a 'hate site,' right? We all know which ones those are.

A site where mass murders are encouraged to post their killing spree videos? Where hate groups and anonymous cowards promote hate, violence and other ideas? Spare us your "" defense of the indefensible.

For such cases, we should have the necessary legal tools to deal with them if the material is truly dangerous enough to be consequential. It is not the job of a corporation to decide, though I suppose they are not under any obligation to provide service, either.

I am generally against censorship, because for every case that is "obvious", there are many more that merely seem so on the surface. This is especially important in cases where you might simply disagree with how someone else thinks, since thoughts can never be allowed to become illegal or immoral; it is only actions where such judgements are applicable.

The proper approach to combating misinformation and dangerous ideas is education. By understanding why an idea is dangerous, you will also understand why it cannot inform your actions.

Re: WARP is here

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Post by flarex »

eastdakota wrote: post #42
kristofferR wrote: post #37

It's borderline unusable for me. It takes 20 seconds for every YouTube video to load while they load instantaneous without WARP: https://streamable.com/9tp1k

Please file a bug report.

I'm having problems recording the screen and playing back the video when reporting a bug.
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