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Re: The grandmaster diet: How to lose weight while barely moving

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Post by Tycho »

stronglikedan wrote: post #160
Tycho wrote: post #152

Your body needs fuel (nutrition) to sustain its activity. If you take in more fuel than your activity requires, your body will convert it into excess fat. If you take in less fuel than your activity requires, your body will burn fat. What else is there to discuss? I honestly do not understand how we have these convoluted discussions. The only other thing worth considering is how you can make it easier for yourself to…

> how you can make it easier for yourself to cope with the feeling of hunger, so that you don't give in and eat more than you need. It took me about 6 months to learn the portion of food that will fill me up, so that I can stop eating well before my stomach takes it's sweet-ass time telling my brain it's full. Best thing I ever did for myself.

Had a colleague who went from near-obese to slim in about 6 months. One tip was to eat small amounts throughout the day, and stuff like bread that fills you up, not stuff like salad that will leave you feeling empty.

From my own experience I think being well attuned to your own appetite patterns is helpful, like you say. That's going to be hard if you have a volatile and busy lifestyle.

Re: The grandmaster diet: How to lose weight while barely moving

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Post by damon_c »

berdon wrote: post #174
dpark wrote: post #168

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> There is no panacea for weight loss - everyone is different. You described the panacea: Eat less. If you eat less than you burn, you will lose weight. This effect is so predictable and reliable that taken to its logical conclusion it results in death. We call this starvation. And everyone really isn’t different. The only thing different for most people is what sort of diet they find more tolerable. The fundamentals…

Everyone really is different. Vastly different gut flora, vastly different neural connections in the brain, vastly different neural connections in the gut. In fact, the only things that are similar across bodies are their macroscopic qualities and those are arguably the least important.

Every time every human exhales, they exhale carbon. That carbon comes from the food they eat.

If a person doesn't eat enough food, the carbon comes from stored fat cells.

Re: The grandmaster diet: How to lose weight while barely moving

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

papito wrote: post #64

After 30, one should seriously evaluate breakfast. Three meals per day becomes just too many calories to burn. Two meals for an adult is plenty. Coffee in the morning suppresses hunger, so one can go until 12-12:30 before getting woozy. At some point I noticed that I was force-feeding myself lunch if I ate breakfast. Hunger is a normal feeling - embrace it.

Other adults might experience this, but I naturally fell into a 2-meal a day routine. It's what my body seems to prefer, and it seems sensible enough to me. I occasionally do 1 meal a day, but those seem kind of randomly dispersed: 1 or 2 of those days per week, rarely back-to-back, but sometimes that happens.

Re: The grandmaster diet: How to lose weight while barely moving

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

bluthru wrote: post #95
Touche wrote: post #89

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Change what you eat, not how often you eat. A yogurt and some fruit is fine for breakfast.

Not if you want to limit your eating window, which is a great way to make your body burn its fat reserves.

If you skip breakfast 16-8 is easy to achieve. Lunch at noon, and dinner anytime before 8pm.

Re: The grandmaster diet: How to lose weight while barely moving

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Post by arh68 »

I went to a lot of chess tournaments as a kid, and I never noticed this phenomenon. I can only name a few GMs that were on the fat side, though.

Not eating is, I think, part of it. Usually a tournament with 40/2+1 time control spaces rounds 6.5 hours apart, and a single round could take close to 6 hours. A full 6-hour game is unusual, but 4 hours of only staring at the board, drinking water, and walking around looking at other games is normal.

I can't remember if food was even allowed at the table; I only remember one time seeing food: at a scholastic tournament, my opponent ate a clementine before the match. Technically, 40/2+1 gives you enough time to drive to Taco Bell (even on your move), but I've never heard of anyone doing it.

If you ask my mom, she'll remember seeing kids from out-of-state wandering between rounds: "have you eaten lunch?" "No...?" like they hadn't even been thinking about it. Just total space cadet stuff, sometimes. (she drove the kid to McD's, I think)

Re: The grandmaster diet: How to lose weight while barely moving

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Post by kelnos »

papito wrote: post #64

After 30, one should seriously evaluate breakfast. Three meals per day becomes just too many calories to burn. Two meals for an adult is plenty. Coffee in the morning suppresses hunger, so one can go until 12-12:30 before getting woozy. At some point I noticed that I was force-feeding myself lunch if I ate breakfast. Hunger is a normal feeling - embrace it.

Unless you're doing intermittent fasting, there's no reason for this. Eat smaller portions and/or lower-calorie food for each meal and you'll be fine.

I rarely eat breakfast, but not for metabolic reasons; I tend to sleep in and don't feel hungry until lunch time.

Really, though, do what works for you. But giving blanket advice like this isn't so great.

Re: The grandmaster diet: How to lose weight while barely moving

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Post by scarface74 »

hoschicz wrote: post #177
scarface74 wrote: post #175

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They didn’t gain 600 pounds plus by overeating up to six months. They have spent years overeating and gaining weight.

They way to look at this from a insulin resistance perspective is that years overeating caused them to develop insulin resistance, which in turn caused them to become obese.

And when they are given tools to help them not to overeat like a gastric bypass did their insulin level resistance decrease?

Also on the same show, when they were put under medical supervision where they had to consume only 1200 calories a day they would drop around 30-50 pounds. There was one guy who would lose 20 pounds in a week (he weighed over 800 pounds) when his mom couldn't sneak food to him.

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Post by taurath »

RandallBrown wrote: post #130
taurath wrote: post #115

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Your bodies absorbsion of nutrients and yes calories is not a system in a vacuum. Nor it’s decision to store excess calories as fat. There’s a wide range of how much different types of foods affect different people. I had a friend who would eat (we counted) 4000 calories a day and couldn’t get over 120lb. Turns out they had a soy allergy and their bodies didn’t absorb the food. Simplifying it to calories in calories…

Just because your friend was pooping out the calories instead of burning them for energy doesn't change that it was still calories in vs calories out. Like I said, calculating both ends of the equation is tricky.

I think by definition it does change that it was calories in vs calories out.

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Post by Touche »

papito wrote: post #185
Touche wrote: post #150

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If you have the willpower to ignore your body telling you its hungry, then yeah fasting will work for you. Most people can do this for only a little while though, and then revert to what they used to do.

Diets fail because people view them as "temporary struggles". Something to get through and then it's over. It's obvious why that doesn't work. It has to be a way of life.

All I'm saying is fasting doesn't work if you make up the calories during non fasting hours.
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