to me (i'm not a developer, so pardon me while i speak out of turn here) it would make a lot of sense to take the solid, well known foundation of IRC and build upon it, instead of reinventing the wheel over and over again, no?
Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor
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Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
Persistent history including things that happened when you weren't connected . Obviously logging is easy, this isn't about client logs. With phone notifications, you not only need to work for things that happened while not connected, it's bad form to require a permanent connection on android and you can't do it at all on an iphone.
Perhaps what you need is a bouncer?
Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor
#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
there’s a successor fork to that identity server over at https://github.com/ma1uta/ma1sd which is being well maintained :) sorry that setting up a homeserver was hard; we’ve been doing a lot of work recently to improve this (eg https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse-config-generator/tree/... is a graphical installer which should be released very shortly).
This looks good. Will this become part of matrix in the future (also, does it work /stable?)?
ma1sd is considered stable and works afaik, and is already part of the matrix ecosystem.
Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm guessing they are talking about this issue which has been open for a disturbingly long time: https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io/issues/955
IPs and the account data you give them. And the complaint is not the collection, just that there's no listing that lets you know they collect IPs. Seems extremely minor. I'm very far from disturbed.
Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor
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They can make it a reality by backing the Matrix.org protocol, or even Ruma, the Rust implementation.
Interesting. Any good resources on Matrix? How has adoption been going until now?
Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor
#196thinking out loud here, but has anyone built a solution on top of IRC, effectively "extending" it? to me (i'm not a developer, so pardon me while i speak out of turn here) it would make a lot of sense to take the solid, well known foundation of IRC and build upon it, instead of reinventing the wheel over and over again, no?
Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor
#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
You must really dislike GitHub then.
I can more or less easily get my data out of github (I can host a repo elsewhere, write a script to scrape the issues, etc.) I don't like using the non-git parts of it for much (ie why write a wiki when you can just make a repo full of markdown files?) Discord is a whole other level of walled garden. It's a black hole of information, and that information isn't owned by you. Discoverability is nonexistent.
Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor
#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can more or less easily get my data out of github (I can host a repo elsewhere, write a script to scrape the issues, etc.) I don't like using the non-git parts of it for much (ie why write a wiki when you can just make a repo full of markdown files?) Discord is a whole other level of walled garden. It's a black hole of information, and that information isn't owned by you. Discoverability is nonexistent.
> why write a wiki when you can just make a repo full of markdown files? fyi: github wikis are just a repo full of markdown files. you can clone down your wiki, make changes, write commits, etc.
Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor
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You realize they're owned by Microsoft yes?
That's counting on Microsoft taking good care of GitHub and maintaining its goodwill. It might or might not be well managed in the years to come. Case in point, Skype. It was "the" tool to use for office communication. Hardly anyone I know uses Skype nowadays.
Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor
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> We've gotten so used to phone notifications and a persistent history, that IRC has fallen behind purely from a convenience factor. I have that with a bouncer (znc) and a plugin. I've not used it, but it is my understanding that IRCCloud does this too. Problem is that there aren't many easily usable options for this apart from IRCCloud and even IRCCloud itself isn't all that well marketed. Always seemed kind of weir…
IRCv3 is still moving forward and gaining momentum.