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Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by carlosdp »

rolltiide wrote: post #185
carlosdp wrote: post #67

So, I'd use this, as someone who has trouble getting matches on dating apps usually. Facebook already has the largest issue for dating apps solved: the network chicken-and-egg problem. Dating apps are non-exclusive, I have 3 installed on my phone and using an additional one isn't a big deal. If they are able to provide a differentiated feature set from other apps because they can better leverage FB interest data, I d…

> Facebook already has the largest issue for dating apps solved: the network chicken-and-egg problem. Dating apps are non-exclusive wasn't the first feature on mobile dating apps to take in your facebook social graph? Tinder had this 6 years ago? It would show you if you had mutual friends via your facebook social graph maybe people didn't know that was because of their facebook connect?

Sure, but that social graph didn't instantly have Tinder. This is built into the Facebook app, you don't even need to install another app. Much easier to get a larger network faster.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by [deleted] »

RandomBacon wrote: post #72
johnisgood wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article says this: Facebook Dating won’t match you with friends , unless you choose to use Secret Crush and you both add each other to your list. All of your Dating activity will stay in Facebook Dating. It won’t be shared to the rest of Facebook.

> It won’t be shared to the rest of Facebook. "Just like your 2FA phone number won't be used for anything except 2FA." - Facebook /s

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Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by everythingswan »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #134
carlosdp wrote: post #67

So, I'd use this, as someone who has trouble getting matches on dating apps usually. Facebook already has the largest issue for dating apps solved: the network chicken-and-egg problem. Dating apps are non-exclusive, I have 3 installed on my phone and using an additional one isn't a big deal. If they are able to provide a differentiated feature set from other apps because they can better leverage FB interest data, I d…

Also, what people on HN seem to be missing is that with dating, I don't care where I get my "leads" from. I can be using every single dating app at once, so what do I care about clicking "enable dating" on Facebook? Facebook gave me a notification to try FB Dating the other week. I clicked it, chose my pics, and was on the meat market immediately, receiving phone notifications like "Karen liked you" just like any oth…

I haven't read all the comments in this thread but I do agree with the idea that this _could_ erode trust even more, ultimately being one of the 1,000 cuts that causes their death. I don't see a big problem with it in general or in the short-term and it's something that's been thrown around for years: why doesn't FB do dating?

In reality, you nailed my experience with dating apps (self + friends on them). Every single person I know uses multiple since the source of a date does not matter to them. They just want what they're looking for. The cost to use an app is so low and context switching is easy enough. And everyone hates on some or all of them...and continues to use all of them.

Many of the non-tech people I meet in real life don't even know the difference between an app and the mobile web. They know interfaces well enough to get the things they need done, done.

FB already has the social layer and lots of other data, so I don't foresee this as a terrible idea. Seems more like a small bet.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by adamc »

beowulfey wrote: post #190
asdfman123 wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. It seems like a mistake. If you have one persona, that means…

>To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. It makes a ton of sense from their business perspective, which is to sell highly personalized ads. If you have one single internet persona, it is far easier to tailor ads to you.

If the service is unappealing, I will not use it, or use it less. So, there are trade-offs.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by paggle »

asdfman123 wrote: post #179
estsauver wrote: post #16

I think this might be a (relatively) rare strategy error for Facebook. If the success of Snapchat, LinkedIn, and also the separate WhatsApp/Instagram properties proves anything, it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large. If I was facebook, I would very explicitly announce this as a spin out project, under a diff…

> it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. It seems like a mistake. If you have one persona, that means…

The whole Maven / Damore stuff at Google shows the strengths and weaknesses of this “one persona” approach. People in Silicon Valley bring their entire selves to work, they protest their own company when they feel it is not having properly, there’s something to admire about that but most people elsewhere are happy to keep work at work and not get too worked up about what their company is or isn’t doing.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by bambax »

> Facebook Dating makes it easier to find love through what you like

I don't like Facebook... No dating for me!

Seriously, Facebook seems to be a tool for self-advertising (look at my wonderful holiday photos), while dating is more personal/intimate/truthful (in theory at least). How long can a relationship last that's not based on truth?

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by roblabla »

beowulfey wrote: post #190
asdfman123 wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's that there are very different faces of ourselves that we show to the professional world, to our friends, to partners, and to the world at large I think Facebook's goal is to make it so that you have one persona you show to everyone. To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. It seems like a mistake. If you have one persona, that means…

>To me, that seems like a cultural thing unique to Silicon Valley that the rest of the world does not necessarily want. It makes a ton of sense from their business perspective, which is to sell highly personalized ads. If you have one single internet persona, it is far easier to tailor ads to you.

Not really no. If you have only one online persona, then you'll only show one angle of your life, and the rest will simply become invisible to facebook. People are unlikely to change how they are, they'll just change how they use the tool.

Letting people show different angles of themselves through differently branded websites makes it much easier for facebook to build complete, thorough profiles of people.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by d--b »

This may feel weird to us, HN people. But perhaps it’s the good move for Facebook because a lot of people use it differently than we do.

There are a lot of people using Facebook as a serious communication platform (think your mum and dad, or your friends from high school). These guys aren’t hiding who they are much on facebook.

They’ll probably get way better matches on Facebook than on traditional dating sites.

This is not a competitor to Tinder, I see this as a serious dating site for shyer or older people.

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by rolltiide »

carlosdp wrote: post #191
rolltiide wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Facebook already has the largest issue for dating apps solved: the network chicken-and-egg problem. Dating apps are non-exclusive wasn't the first feature on mobile dating apps to take in your facebook social graph? Tinder had this 6 years ago? It would show you if you had mutual friends via your facebook social graph maybe people didn't know that was because of their facebook connect?

Sure, but that social graph didn't instantly have Tinder. This is built into the Facebook app, you don't even need to install another app. Much easier to get a larger network faster.

I misinterpreted what the issue was. alright. you just want a broader pool everywhere

Re: Facebook Dating

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Post by joering2 »

erikig wrote: post #47
TallGuyShort wrote: post #19

"Secret Crush Lists" Yeah that doesn't sound like something that'll end up on Pastebin.

When the largest accompanying FB news headline is: "Over 400 million Facebook users' phone numbers exposed" this feels like the most poorly timed product launch.

If you look at their stock, its a third time they try to break the ceiling at $200 mark [1]. That's most likely how they were aiming this news.

https://stockrow.com/FB

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