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Re: The Browser Monopoly

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Post by newscracker »

pmikesell wrote: post #55
aluren wrote: post #23

I don't get why people (I mean technically minded people who are aware of privacy issues and so on) don't just use firefox. They are pretty much at feature parity (Firefox may even get the edge due to the fantastic extensions ecosystem), except one spies on you and the other doesn't. Why do people find the switch so hard? In addition, Firefox + ublokc origin is pretty much the only option on mobile if you want to blo…

I'm a technically minded person. I've been using web browsers since NCSA Mosaic. I switch browsers probably once per decade (mosaic -> netscape navigator -> firefox -> chrome). At the time I started using Chrome IE was the dominant web browser and firefox was losing the war because content creators were continually accidentally making things work in IE only. (By "accidentally" I mean that the standards were very conf…

While I agree with your point on not willing to pay “30 different $5 per month subscriptions for stuff I might read”, I do not agree that technically aware people who know about privacy ought to have a lackadaisical attitude to tracking and surveillance. At an individual level you could argue that it doesn’t harm you (or better, hasn’t harmed you so far), but at the level of society and the world, we’d be worse off if everybody thought this wasn’t important and hence did nothing about it.

Re: The Browser Monopoly

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Post by pygy_ »

Gaelan wrote: post #189
pygy_ wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

@mtgx your account has been shadowbanned you may want to contact YC to sort it out (hn@ycombinator.com).

Huh? Their comment shows up fine for me.

I vouched for this one, which was [dead], but most of their comments made in the last 20 days are [dead], and so are all of their submissions since July.

Re: The Browser Monopoly

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Post by mceachen »

gibspaulding wrote: post #68
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #34

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The biggest problem is the subtle frustrations if you use Google websites or services at all, since Google builds the Internet explicitly for Chrome, and sometimes works on other browsers okay-ish. reCAPTCHA harassment is particularly egregious too. I'm a Firefox user, but I've also already excised most of the rest of Google from my life. If you're still using Gmail, you're likely to stick with Chrome.

I'm also a full time Firefox/uBO user, but I've never noticed isues with reCAPTCHA or gmail. The only time I can think of hitting reCAPTCHA is when creating a new account somewhere and gmail seems to work as expected. Photos, maps, Keep, and YouTube all seem to work fine too. It's possible of course that I just don't know any better since I haven't actually used Chrome with any regularity in the last 5 years or so.

My experience (on macOS, windows 10, and Ubuntu Desktop) is that captchas on Chrome pass seamlessly (frequently without a prompt), and firefox on all three platforms require 3-10 screenfuls of "where's the signal light?" where's-waldo fun and games.

Re: The Browser Monopoly

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Post by dredmorbius »

CoolGuySteve wrote: post #89
basch wrote: post #3

>Chrome introduced a lot of neat new features (Porn “Incognito Mode,” multithreaded memory changes, tabs and more). Now chrome is getting credit for in private browsing and tabs? (Safari and Opera respectively. Phoenix/Firefox popularized them long before Chrome was a twinkle.) >It is mind-boggling that basic tools like these are not yet standard features in browsers. How long have browsers offered to save passwords?…

Chrome had the nifty break away title bar tabs before anyone else. But the major improvement that made everyone switch was process separation for each tab. One tab could crash while the others stayed functional and a security vulnerability in one tab would have a more difficult time compromising the others. It's also one of the reasons Chome uses so much memory, they failed to keep optimizing their copy-on-write pagi…

Is break-away different from gtk tear-off menus? Because that's ~1999 - 2001.

Process sep per tab was a Chrome feature. Unless you count Lynx and separate instances per browser page ;-)

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Post by tistoon »

aluren wrote: post #23

I don't get why people (I mean technically minded people who are aware of privacy issues and so on) don't just use firefox. They are pretty much at feature parity (Firefox may even get the edge due to the fantastic extensions ecosystem), except one spies on you and the other doesn't. Why do people find the switch so hard? In addition, Firefox + ublokc origin is pretty much the only option on mobile if you want to blo…

I am on a MacbookPro and would love to use Firefox, however because of this never-solved bug [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404042], I have to stick to Opera or Safari or.. Chrome (and probably I am not the only one).

Firefox is losing a lot share just because it gets our fan/cpu crazy on macbooks.

Re: The Browser Monopoly

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Post by basch »

scarface74 wrote: post #151
basch wrote: post #3

>Chrome introduced a lot of neat new features (Porn “Incognito Mode,” multithreaded memory changes, tabs and more). Now chrome is getting credit for in private browsing and tabs? (Safari and Opera respectively. Phoenix/Firefox popularized them long before Chrome was a twinkle.) >It is mind-boggling that basic tools like these are not yet standard features in browsers. How long have browsers offered to save passwords?…

Now chrome is getting credit for in private browsing and tabs? (Safari and Opera respectively. Phoenix/Firefox popularized them long before Chrome was a twinkle.) Just for reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_browsing It was available for 3 years in Safari before it became available in Chrome and four years before Firefox.

that is what I said. Private tabs ..> safari ..> respectively.

Re: The Browser Monopoly

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Post by nwah1 »

nwah1 wrote: post #82
realshowbiz wrote: post #40

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I’ve been having a good experience with safari + ublock origin. Firefox tends to consume a lot of system resources on my pretty modest machine.

My understanding is that Firefox previously had some specific problems on Mac that were mostly resolved. Might be worth re-evaluating.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/upcoming-firefox-update-will-d...
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