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Sensible move. I'm sure they have data showing it's used by an absolutely tiny number of users, and getting rid of it removes a source of potential security issues down the line.
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I'm not fine with this. I'm of the mindset that code written 20 years ago should run today. This is a breaking change on a critical piece of internet infrastructure. Google, by nature of operating the most popular web browser, has a moral obligation to the community to provide a stable environment. There are something like 10^9 webpages out there. How many of these will become less accessible because of this change?…
>I'm of the mindset that code written 20 years ago should run today. Given that chrome didn't exist 20 years ago, this seems like a fairly absurd position to apply to this situation. No code from 20 years ago relies on chrome having ftp support.
Just as a reminder, Firefox did this (a year ago?).
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Indeed; by the same "security" logic, why not get rid of HTTP too then? (Or SMTP, for that matter?) The point of "organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful" is to do precisely that: to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful -- long tails included. But I guess for them it's not... (Also, I can't believe the Chrome team is so strapped it can't…
If I imagine I'm in a position as a developer / project manager / whatever working for Google trying to advocate Google committing resources to the FTP protocol in Google Chrome, I'm struggling to think of a way of promoting it that shows it will have a return on investment. How do you display ads while someone is accessing an FTP server? ftp://example.com/directory/file.extension can be a link in a website, where th…
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Ftp is fast
Genuinely curious. Why do you think a bitstream from an FTP server is faster than from a HTTP server?
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HTTP these days (via WebSockets) allows for the creation of stateful connections. My idea is that HTTP will just expand to encompass any remaining non-HTTP use cases. HTTP isn't even coupled to TCO anymore!
Websockets use HTTP only for the initial handshake. The rest of the channel uses the Websocket protocol.
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> everyone knows FTP is plaintext You mean no one knows that FTP is plaintext except a minority of users which happens to be on HN. Google is optimizing its browser for the majority, chrome is not a power-user browser. Maybe they'll add an option to enable ftp or something. > drivers, which I'd say are a significant part of FTP use I'm not sure how that's true. Every time I used FTP, it was not for drivers. All the d…
> Google is optimizing its browser for the majority, chrome is not a power-user browser. That is a problem. We have browser engine duopoly, and really everyone is doing whatever Google wants anyway. So as they're optimizing against power users, they're making the whole web much worse.
A real strange thing...
Not to worry though, I'm sure Google is just doing it for everyone's best interests, like the charitable organization for humanity that they are.
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> everyone knows FTP is plaintext You mean no one knows that FTP is plaintext except a minority of users which happens to be on HN. Google is optimizing its browser for the majority, chrome is not a power-user browser. Maybe they'll add an option to enable ftp or something. > drivers, which I'd say are a significant part of FTP use I'm not sure how that's true. Every time I used FTP, it was not for drivers. All the d…
> Maybe they'll add an option to enable ftp or something. I guess not. More likely there'll be plugin to add this functionality back.
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There was a time when www was just a part of the Internet and we had www search and ftp search engines. The one I used to use was called "ftpsearch" and the only thing (besides the name) I remember is that it used to say "This server is located in Trondheim" on the front page. A quick web search turns out that it still seems to exist in some form [1]. Unfortunately it apparently doesn't really work anymore. Maybe it'…
I just hope this isn't like how Google basically killed off RSS when they killed off the best client that everyone was using (which I've still never heard a good reason why) which I believe played a role in the decline of everyone having a blog. And yes I know there's some niche support still, just as FTP will live on.