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Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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So real news continues to make their content harder to read, while fake news does everything they can to spread far and wide. Journalism for profit is fundamentally broken.

The purpose of fake news is to spread, the purpose of real news is to make its creators money. It's not surprising what spreads more..

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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Your local library probably provides content for free if they subscribe to news services, paid for with your tax dollars. Paywalls are just a tax on those too stupid to go to one. Newspapers never made their money from subscriptions or from selling papers on the street. What kept newspapers in business was classified ads, which was disrupted as a revenue stream when Craigslist came around.

I think you mean that paywalls are rent-seeking on those who lack time (or some other resource) to go to a public library.

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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No, their model is fine. Sell a decent product for money. The problem lies squarely with hordes of credulous morons who either don’t know or don’t care that their news is fake, and aren’t willing to shell out for quality content. Whether that exposes a deeper flaw in human nature, or is just an oddity of our times, is left to you to decide.

I keep hoping that something like GNU Taler will catch on. I have having subscriptions to various services, and I think something like Taler will help because it makes payments easier. An even better service would be to have something like Netflix, but for news. I could pay $X/month and have access to a variety of news sources. Ideally, those news sources would be paid according to their popularity and accuracy, and…

> I think something like Taler will help because it makes payments easier.

Taler should allow anonymous payments, which means a possibility of one fix to the present model: you can read the news without the news reading you.

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

#195

So real news continues to make their content harder to read, while fake news does everything they can to spread far and wide. Journalism for profit is fundamentally broken.

I'm curious as to when this mythical age of widespread access to "real news" existed. George Orwell dated it to at least 80 years ago ("History stopped in 1936")...

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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My household still gets a physical paper (the Seattle Times), and a digital version of the same. We subscribe to the NYT and The Economist. That's about our limit for news subscriptions. I'm not going to fork over $10/month to each of the other potential news sites for every article they publish. I have no idea why the Podunk Press and the Suburban Picayune Times even consider that as an option for out-of-area reader…

This is Apple's News+ in the nutshell, so federated subscription service you're envisioning would have to compete with Apple.

Yup, you're right. I feel stupid now :-)

edit: apparently you have to use apple devices? oh heck no, what were they thinking?

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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People, through their actions, have proven they want free and easy sensationalism. Not in-depth investigative reporting. You can't really just sell into that.

The popularity of investigative journalism podcasts from NPR, Gimlet, ProPublica, Center for Investigative Reporting, etc. seem to disprove this theory. Outside of a few exceptional pieces the typical content on print "news" sites is utter garbage. The pressure to have a bunch of different columns publishing multiple stories a day seems like it really drives the quality down. All the super cool long-form investigativ…

> The popularity of investigative journalism

Pretty sure sites like buzzfeed and other tabloid news would more popular than the sites which you mentioned.

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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Some good publications are nonpaywalled nonprofits that rely on donations. Not sure you can make that work in every niche, but two examples: https://www.quantamagazine.org/ , https://www.texastribune.org/

Quanta has the Simons foundation behind it. How free is a press if it can only live off the good will of a billionaire?

Extreme freemium model! Free for everyone, except for that one billionaire :-)

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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No, their model is fine. Sell a decent product for money. The problem lies squarely with hordes of credulous morons who either don’t know or don’t care that their news is fake, and aren’t willing to shell out for quality content. Whether that exposes a deeper flaw in human nature, or is just an oddity of our times, is left to you to decide.

I don't think that paying a monthly subscription gets me news that is any less fake or higher-quality than what I can find from non-paywalled sources. I guess I'm a "credulous moron".

Are claiming that the Breitbart News (free) and the NYT ($$) are of equal quality?

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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I don't think that paying a monthly subscription gets me news that is any less fake or higher-quality than what I can find from non-paywalled sources. I guess I'm a "credulous moron".

Are claiming that the Breitbart News (free) and the NYT ($$) are of equal quality?

If those were the only two options, sure, NYT wins. But there are plenty of free options better than Breitbart. BBC News, NPR, and The Guardian are all decent, on par with NYT in my opinion. For local news, I've mostly found small sites that follow specific local issues to be better than the newspapers, e.g. in Houston the best weather news is Space City Weather [1], and in DC the best source for transit/urbanist news is Greater Greater Washington [2]. There are pretty good smaller news sites and blogs for specific issues too, e.g. I read SCOTUSblog for Supreme Court news, and FiveThirtyEight for stats-oriented sports and US politics coverage. For "ongoing" world-news events, I usually just read what Wikipedia has synthesized. None of these have paywalls, though some do ask for donations.

(I do subscribe to a few magazines though, just not newspapers.)

[1] https://spacecityweather.com/

[2] https://ggwash.org/

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