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Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without state approval [pdf]

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#191

Looking at the text of the fine, you can't charge money to teach people things ("offer education" in their parlence) in a physical location without state approval. Could that be any more broad? Education is often just verbal and written communication between people. Seems like a first amendment violation.

So would private tutoring be technically illegal in CA?

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#194

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25 lbs of paperwork to register an online school? Sounds less about protecting students and more towards protecting incumbents and cronies.

When the government makes you waste a a day filling out paperwork to prove that your dog food doesn’t contain human remains, don’t blame the regulators. Blame the guy before you who made a buck by vertically integrating his cannery and his morgue.

A long time ago, I worked in defense.

Our design engineers had to fill out government paperwork (many pages) that provided an estimate for how long the rest of the government paperwork would take.

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Nah, blame the regulators too for thinking that filling out paperwork is likely to meaningfully dissuade someone from using human remains to make dog food. It was probably sufficient to explain to that one guy why that was bad.

Or have one page with a single checkbox that says "I understand it is illegal to use human remains in dog food"

Regulation isn't about informing people what the rules are, it's about people proving they are following the rules.

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#196

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When the government makes you waste a a day filling out paperwork to prove that your dog food doesn’t contain human remains, don’t blame the regulators. Blame the guy before you who made a buck by vertically integrating his cannery and his morgue.

I used to work in compliance and the number of regulations that are punitive punishments for bad things that actually happened is just astounding. SOX compliance is arduous but it only exists (and is as strict as it is) because some banks decided to destroy the global economy just to make a bit of money and couldn't understand why this was a bad thing.

Sox was passed in response to Enron. While that may have been a big failure, it had no effect on the wider economy. In fact Enrons scandal only came out after the 2001 recession ended... the economy grew during and after Enron’s failure.

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#197

Why does Lamda School need to be registered in California and not somewhere else?

Reading the currently top-rated comment from the co-founder of Lambda School, it looks like they must register in all states: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20555707

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....nor regulators.

With a functional government, regulations enable the regulators to punish people who do these things.

Since we're talking about human remains in dog food, there's already likely a litany of felonies involved in turning a person into dog food. The regulators just like to regulate.

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#199

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> for bad things that actually happened is just astounding. you are not kidding. "You mean we have to monitor for this because someone ACTUALLY tried doing that before...?"

Sure, bad things happen. But there's a trade-off between regulatory burden and economic vibrancy and adaptability. We all know that taxi regulations sort of existed because a lot of tourists would get taken advantage of. But then, the taxi companies and politicians exploited it to promote local monopolies and enforced it with limited edition, expensive taxi medallions that prevented people from starting up legitimate…

Agreed. Though it's tough to square the fact that bad things happen sometimes with desire to do something. The Onion actually had a good video on this a few years ago:

https://politics.theonion.com/truck-accident-that-killed-raf...

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#200

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You need a happy medium here. You don't want to allow scammers of course, but also don't want to overly protect the incumbents so no one else can disrupt the space.

The happy medium is the have enforcement mechanisms of the tends of thousands of existing regulations that would put a scam business out of existence if a DA choose to. The fact of the matter is that to protect people... you need to have a system where ordinary people can complain, and companies get taken to task. 99% of preventative/reporting regulation is just cronyism.

We may wish regulations were for a different reason, but this is certainly their most common use case.
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