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Photographers, Instagrammers: Stop Being So Selfish and Disrespectful

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Re: Photographers, Instagrammers: Stop Being So Selfish and Disrespectful

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Indirectly related, living in the UK there seems to be a growing culture of 'fuck you' in this country. Not a lack of etiquette or the trivial please and thank-you, those I can do without, you can still be sweary and abrupt and still considerate, I mean a fundamental selfishness. It seems to be bigger among younger people, 20s to 30s, and I will emphasize that it's uncommon and that the great majority of people at an…

This has been a perpetual complaint across human history. Every older generation thinks the younger generation is like this. https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20171003-proof-that-peo... > “We defy anyone who goes about with his eyes open to deny that there is, as never before, an attitude on the part of young folk which is best described as grossly thoughtless, rude, and utterly selfish.” - 1925

Nowhere in the article he mentioned it to be a "younger" generation problem. Actually I think it crosses ages.

Re: Photographers, Instagrammers: Stop Being So Selfish and Disrespectful

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This has been a perpetual complaint across human history. Every older generation thinks the younger generation is like this. https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20171003-proof-that-peo... > “We defy anyone who goes about with his eyes open to deny that there is, as never before, an attitude on the part of young folk which is best described as grossly thoughtless, rude, and utterly selfish.” - 1925

Nowhere in the article he mentioned it to be a "younger" generation problem. Actually I think it crosses ages.

The comment I'm replying to stated "It seems to be bigger among younger people..."

Re: Photographers, Instagrammers: Stop Being So Selfish and Disrespectful

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Same thing is happening in Monument Valley Utah/AZ... It's like an entire generation just discovered that the earth has some beautiful areas and they're coming to ruin it all.

Not to dismiss your point, but there was also a generation of people who wanted to mine the grand canyon. I think that as people we still have the same psychological trappings as we did before. But I do think we're becoming more conscious. Certainly, if you asked any of those lavender tramplers about setting of dynamite in that area to unearth copper or whatnot, they'd probably not support such an idea.

Re: Photographers, Instagrammers: Stop Being So Selfish and Disrespectful

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One trick I learned a while ago is that stepping back as far as possible and taking pictures of people taking pictures is far more interesting than yet another picture of the same thing. There are only so many interesting photos of the Mona Lisa. But there are an infinite number of interesting photos of people maniacally taking photos of the Mona Lisa. If you're lucky, you might snap a pic of an instagrammer falling…

It's called a "meta". If you manage to take a picture of somebody taking a picture of somebody taking a picture - congratulation, you just earned yourself a "double-meta".

Re: Photographers, Instagrammers: Stop Being So Selfish and Disrespectful

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Not nearly enough has been written about "travel as status-seeking". It is for some a way to portray that you're not materialistic, but still dunk on all the poors and other outgroup members while blowing thousands of dollars on what is ultimately a luxury. The sub-category of "travel as wasteful mating signal & ritual" deserves another novel on top of this. It didn't help that for several years (though it has thankf…

Absolutely. It seems to have become popular to value "experiences over things" as if that's somehow virtuous and makes you better than materialistic people who just want to accumulate stuff. It's really just another branch of the same kind of materialism. The mating signal thing is crazy too. I recently dabbled in dating apps (hopefully, never again). It seems virtually every woman on there is obsessed with travel (h…

This is the first time I've ever head the term "wanderlust" and it sincerely hope its the last.

Re: Photographers, Instagrammers: Stop Being So Selfish and Disrespectful

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> I’ve seen photographers edge further and further into the water – ruining the view for others, shouting at kayakers who “dare” to exercise their right to paddle around the lake while drifting into their shot It's ironic that the author is defending the rights of kayakers to do what they enjoy in the lake, while simultaneously berating photographers and "instagrammers" for "ruining the view for others" with their me…

I'm not sure the author was berating the photographers for ruining the view for others. I read it as revealing the hypocrisy of the photographers shouting at kayakers for doing the thing they were currently doing themselves.

> From a beach with a few locals walking through each evening, to now, what has become a honeypot for crowds of photographers getting in the way every “golden hour”...

> I’ve seen photographers edge further and further into the water – ruining the view for others...

> For instagrammers, and wannabe “influencers” – learn that there are people on the planet who might not be interested in YOU. They might want to see the view without you in it. They might even want to just sit and enjoy a scene without a camera (shock!). While it’s easy to get wrapped up in this stuff online, they have every right (or maybe even more) to enjoy a place without it being ruined by your need to be “liked” by people you’ll never meet.

It sure sounds like he's berating photographers for ruining the view for others.

Re: Photographers, Instagrammers: Stop Being So Selfish and Disrespectful

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Nowhere in the article he mentioned it to be a "younger" generation problem. Actually I think it crosses ages.

The comment I'm replying to stated "It seems to be bigger among younger people..."

Which I now regret saying as it seems to have been taken as a curmudgeonly dissing of 'yoof' in general. I never meant it thus. I was quite careful with my words, but not careful enough apparently.

Re: Photographers, Instagrammers: Stop Being So Selfish and Disrespectful

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I used to volunteer at a heritage railway in Northern Ireland. We had several old restored trains and we went to great lengths to make the station areas look authentically old. Naturally photographers loved it. Most photographers were Okay and respected the rules, but some some just refused and couldn't handle being called out. For example one rule was do not get in train cabs, unless by prior arrangement - which inv…

To be honest, at least part of this sounds more like inane British "safety" bullshit to me. Jumping on trains is clearly wtf and unacceptable, but no tripods because "too dangerous"? Yeah nah. If you're getting a lot of abuse then your system probably stinks, as, by and large, people aren't assholes or want to be angry. They just want to take their holiday snaps, you know. So here's an alternative take: just let peop…

The railway exists to give all its patrons a fun day out. When people with tripods and massive lenses ruins it for the family who just want to take a quick smartphone family picture in front of the old train, then we have a problem. There have been multiple instance where the tripod guy has prevented a child a quick picture because they see their picture as more important.

Leave aside the safety issues. When people set up tripods so that they can get their picture, whilst denying others the same opportunity - it's not cool.

Re: Photographers, Instagrammers: Stop Being So Selfish and Disrespectful

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One trick I learned a while ago is that stepping back as far as possible and taking pictures of people taking pictures is far more interesting than yet another picture of the same thing. There are only so many interesting photos of the Mona Lisa. But there are an infinite number of interesting photos of people maniacally taking photos of the Mona Lisa. If you're lucky, you might snap a pic of an instagrammer falling…

https://imgur.com/a/e1cfdMT

This photo didn't quite capture the full effect, but at the time I was shocked how many people were facing away from the painting.

Re: Photographers, Instagrammers: Stop Being So Selfish and Disrespectful

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This is obviously terrible behaviour. As an amateur photographer myself I particularly dislike the Instagram driven “race to the bottom”. However... I do think in a situation such as this it’s a missed commercial opportunity. If I managed a highly “Instagrammable” private location I’d aggressively enforce good conduct and at the same time have paid access to alternative times for photographers. You want to be a selfi…

You're a lavender farmer. Do you also want to run a tourism business, including hiring security to enforce that only paying customers get the exclusive benefit you are now selling? I doubt it. That "aggressively enforce good conduct" is key. There are dozens, hundreds of people showing up at the same time at some of these places.

Noticed I mentioned a private location. Sure if you’re having to monitor acres of farmland that’s harder.
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