Has anyone made a plugin that does a DOS on each ad server(s) detected? Then, we have built-in DDOS on the ad servers, if enough users install it.
Good luck getting that past the Chrome Web Store censors. I doubt even Mozilla would accept it.
Why is Stack Overflow trying to start audio?
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Re: Why is Stack Overflow trying to start audio?
#192"It's not very straightforward to find where it's coming from, but we are working on it." This encapsulates the entire problem with the current state of digital advertising in 1 simple sentence.
It is straightforward, but not for publishers. The adexchanges know, and do business with shady companies on both sides because they make money from volume without any consequences.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
What makes you think it would be for web scraper detection vs user fingerprinting?
Because they had a lot of trouble with sham sites generated by their content.
They literally provide full website dumps of all the content: https://stackoverflow.blog/2014/01/23/stack-exchange-cc-data... (yes, the post is old, but they still update the archive).
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's be adults here. This is SO, and I imagine you've used and enjoyed the use of their services just like the rest of us. Support them by letting passive ads sit on the edges of the page, and appreciate that they are actually trying to solve this issue.
They could “solve” the issue by not having third party ads. Of all the sites on the internet, StackOverflow has the demographics that any advertiser would crave. How large of an inside ads sales force would you need to target higher than average income earners? How large reputable sites trust third party ad servers is a mystery to me. Besides, native ads that could be served from StackOverFlows own servers would be h…
That's just not how digital ad campaigns are run. Advertisers, agencies, media buyers and the rest of the supply chain don't negotiate with individual sites like that, not at any scale that can sustain a site like SO.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's be adults here. This is SO, and I imagine you've used and enjoyed the use of their services just like the rest of us. Support them by letting passive ads sit on the edges of the page, and appreciate that they are actually trying to solve this issue.
No. We got content without this in the past, and we can do this in the future. And I will note THEY admit this is bad. Stop trying to defend the indefensible.
You didn't get Stackoverflow, and barely any of the content today. You may be fine with the internet of the early 90s but most people are not.
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tv spots are very limited. Digital ad impressions number in the billions with 10s of millions of ad creatives. It’s not the same situation.
If you can't manage to oversee it because of the scale you don't deserve to take advantage of the scale.
That sounds nice but is neither realistic or even sensible. There are other solutions like sandboxing to prevent access to features, it's not an unsolvable problem.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tv spots are very limited. Digital ad impressions number in the billions with 10s of millions of ad creatives. It’s not the same situation.
The only reason it’s not the same situation is because they’re willing to throw their users under the bus for a little extra cash. If they wanted to exert more control, they absolutely could. Ads would cost more and we’d see fewer distinct ads as a result.
That is absolutely not the only reason. Digital ads work entirely different from the TV medium and its more than "a little extra cash".
No single publisher today really has the power to change much, no matter how big they are. The issue likes with adtech (like Google) and advertisers.
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s incredibly disrespectful. Nobody wants some random ad listening to their microphone. That they’re trying it anyway indicates that they’re hoping to get some people with browsers that don’t block it, or trick some people into saying yes. It’s not harmful, as long as you’re not one of the people who gets tricked. But it does indicate that they want to do you harm, and try to. That they failed doesn’t make it all b…
Wait, it was listening in on the microphone too? Doesn’t that break wiretapping laws?
The parent is wrong. It's for fingerprinting your audio pipeline. Trying to record audio would result in a permissions prompt.
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the actual problem at the heart of it all. And even if it were more profitable to take subscription fees than to serve ads, what's stopping you from "double dipping" and serving ads anyway?
> what's stopping you from "double dipping" and serving ads anyway? People looking at the source code, like what happened here.
You think the NY Times, Linkedin, etc. is going to have the same response as StackOverflow? Good luck even getting in touch with someone who knows what you're talking about.
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
They could “solve” the issue by not having third party ads. Of all the sites on the internet, StackOverflow has the demographics that any advertiser would crave. How large of an inside ads sales force would you need to target higher than average income earners? How large reputable sites trust third party ad servers is a mystery to me. Besides, native ads that could be served from StackOverFlows own servers would be h…
That's just not how digital ad campaigns are run. Advertisers, agencies, media buyers and the rest of the supply chain don't negotiate with individual sites like that, not at any scale that can sustain a site like SO.
Stack Overflow has a known demographic and is not some unknown site. Are you really saying that companies like Amazon (AWS),Microsoft, JetBrains, Google (GCP), Slack, etc would ignore a sales pitch from SO?