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Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#191

Happens to me in chrome every single day. I think it's a bug in how they're detecting potential bots. Of course no one at Google will listen when you submit reports. Especially the one about selecting street lights/stop lights/crosswalks.

the concern here is about super-slow loading and more tiles to verify when you use Firefox than when you use Google Chrome browser

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#193
This happens even on Chrome. If you're logged into a Google account, it seems to know that you're not a bot since your Google Account is tightly integrated within Chrome. If you try the same captcha on an Incognito page on Chrome, you will have the same experience as on Firefox. Atleast, that's the case for me.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#194

I thought this was just me and their stupid caption being impossible for even humans to solve; turns out I was just being gaslighted this entire time and they're just discriminating against Firefox users? How does the EU or someone not shut down this sort of anti-competative monopolostic nosense? I didn't think I could get more furious about having to struggle with these captions all day, but somehow I am. Please eve…

they're just discriminating against Firefox users? At least part of the behaviour shown in the video depends on factors like cookies, IP address, and whether you have features like anti-fingerprinting protection turned on. [1] Recaptcha is frustrating and I dislike it, especially the slow fade-ins and multiple challenges, but if you repeat the test shown in the video you won't find it 100% repeatable just because you…

As far as I can tell it's 100% repeatable, every now and then one works the first time on Firefox, but it almost never does. If I use it in Chrome on the same sites, it works. Then I go back to Firefox, and sure enough it doesn't work again. Maybe there's something else making it work for you? I don't know what other factor there could be; some privacy settings in Firefox maybe?

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#195

I've never understood what happened to reCAPTCHA, it was originally so great and is now just so, so toxic. Originally it was an awesome solution based on OCR'ing books that usually worked quickly on the first try, and almost never took more than two. Then it turned into a single checkbox (analyzing mouse movement) so it was even faster... and I remember some simple image-based like "select the images of cats" that we…

There's a third problem: quite a bit of the stuff they present is (almost) uniquely American and presents a recognition challenge in other cultural contexts. That yellow vehicle? Looks nothing like a bus in most other parts of the world. And so the rest of the world gets to learn what an American Bus looks like... Not, I think, what was intended.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#197

I'm from the UK and often get very American questions. Such as "select all the images with cross-walks". This isn't really a phrase we have over here, so when I first got this I had no idea what I was meant to be looking for in the array of random pictures and actually had to look it up to get past it. If you're going to force me to do a captcha, at least localise the damn questions. Do other non-American's get this…

Or fire hydrants, which don’t exist in the NL. I only recognize those from US movies. Or taxi’s which can be any brand, model or color here. Sigh.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you may be right about the fade-out and delay but the time spent fading in only hampers humans not bots. As soon as it starts fading in the image is present in non-faded form and the bots can start processing it.

> the time spent fading in only hampers humans not bots Not necessarily, contrast adds detail and mistakes are expensive, so bots too are incentivized to wait for the final picture (this assuming that network communications aren't monitored to get the incoming image out of the request). Also clicking on that image too early is a good signal that it's a bot.

The bot presumably is running in something like chrome headless or selenium (if you're processing JS), so it would have access to the image the moment the response is received.

Unless Google is literally streaming in the image frame-by-frame, I'll admit I haven't looked into the details but this doesn't seem likely as it's pretty complicated compared to just using an image.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#200

Google Captcha is a complete mess at this point and I often leave websites that use it if it's not essential to what I am doing

Even more annoying are those sites that insist on using it, even though they know I'm human -- for reasons like I've paid them some money or jumped through their KYC hoops. At that point it's just being rude and exploitive, and, personally, I've reached the point where I'll simply take my business elsewhere if a site chooses to treat me with so little basic respect.
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