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Re: Netlify Dev

#191
I love what Netlify is doing, but I've chosen to only watch it from afar for the past few years. I used to use a similar service that I loved very much called Divshot. But Google bought them, closed it down, and absorbed some of their tech for parts of the Firebase platform.

Now I use NearlyFreeSpeech.NET exactly because I do have to pay for it. I'm not sure how Netlify is able to offer their free tier. But I've learned the hard way that if you're not paying for it, you're not the customer.

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#192

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That "just" is just your favorite alternative to "npm install". There's nothing "just" about it. Like preferring it was a pip or apt install.

Sure there is. When I’m done looking at it, I delete the Docker image and it’s gone from my system. That’s more effort with npm. Also, the docker solution works for everything . So whether it’s a node app, or python, or Go, or Ruby... the process is the same.

Getting a docker image to performantly access a local folder across platforms is a huge challenge.

I love docker but it's just not good enough at handling watched folders.

Re: Netlify Dev

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> But you get free static sites through GitHub, nearly free static sites on Amazon S3. I've been really happy using Netlify (with Jekyll) for https://www.checkbot.io/ - I didn't have to think about server admin at all when I got traffic spikes from Hacker News and Product Hunt traffic, and development features make working on the website really straightforward. Features I like: - Git based deploys automatically when…

Obvious to everyone except me, it seems, so obvious that it's never mentioned by anybody, is: What about databases? The answer could be, "Well, obviously, it's not for database-backed websites", or "Obviously it's perfect for database-backed websites, because now you can use their X feature for your database", or "Obviously, you use some other company to host your database but Netlify for everything else, which is a…

Honestly? Most internet sites don't _need_ a database. You could probably replace most* wordpress/squarespace/wix sites with a statically generated site.

You can call api's from JS and host your database separately, also possible that people use some kind of "serverless" database like google firebase.

Re: Netlify Dev

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If you're not aware, you get most of that for free with GitHub pages: https://pages.github.com/ It deploys when you push, is based on Jekyll, and GitHub handles all of the hosting/HTTPS/caching themselves.

You're forced to use Jekyll, though, and you're forced to use Github. Netlify lets you generate your site however you want and doesn't tie you to a git provider.

You're not forced to use Jekyll. You just get some nice things if you do. As long as you have a pages repo with an index.html in the root, GitHub can serve it for you. How you generate the repo is completely up to you. I have my own custom static site generator that I use to publish my blog, I use that with a script that does some git dance to keep things clean and it just works.

Re: Netlify Dev

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One feature I haven't seen in the comments here is the ability to just drag and drop an entire website folder from your harddisk to Netlify and it's live within seconds. Which worked great for a couple of older personal websites I had. Second feature that is great is that you can use the cli to perform a draft deploy, which generates a unique public URL which you can share with your testers/marketeers/writers/transla…

> One feature I haven't seen in the comments here is the ability to just drag and drop an entire website folder from your harddisk to Netlify and it's live within seconds. Which worked great for a couple of older personal websites I had. How is this different than `aws s3 sync local/ s3://your-website.com`?

1. With Netlify you don't need to install any command line tool. For non-technical users it's a must.

2. Netlify is a CDN, so "dragging and dropping" would be equivalent to setting up S3 + Cloudfront.

3. You have to create the bucket before running this command. With Netlify you just drag and drop and it takes a couple seconds (if the site is small enough to be built that fast).

4. Netlify is also able to run a build phase before deploying. With S3 you have to do it locally or setup a remote machine.

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> One feature I haven't seen in the comments here is the ability to just drag and drop an entire website folder from your harddisk to Netlify and it's live within seconds. Which worked great for a couple of older personal websites I had. How is this different than `aws s3 sync local/ s3://your-website.com`?

It's just as easy with Netlify's tool too netlifyctl deploy --publish-directory local/ --site-id site_id

You're missing out on the brave new future! netlifyctl is dormant, upgrade to netlify-cli: https://github.com/netlify/cli

Re: Netlify Dev

#200

Netlify is amazing: 1. Free 2. Good support 3. Custom domains with SSL 4. Takes care of most important backend stuff (forms and webhooks) 5. Functions (Lambda with zero config needed) 6. Abstracts server stuff like [redirects]( https://www.netlify.com/docs/redirects/ ) Lambda and redirects are the best. I can just put my scripts in a folder and they automagically work. In my LinkedIn profile my website address is not…

> 1. Free ... 4. Takes care of most important backend stuff (forms and webhooks)

From my reading of https://www.netlify.com/pricing/#forms you will need to pay $19/month/site (!) just to collect the data from 1000 form submissions. By the time you have a couple of sites like this the price is already way too much for me and anyone else with basic backend knowledge. I hope I've misunderstood.

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