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How many years holed up in the embassy? If he ends up serving jail time he won't get his sentence reduced for time spent in the embassy.. Perhaps would have been better off going to jail at the start.
You think they do that in gitmo?
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Yeah sure and the kids are down in the Pizzeria.
That to normal people sounds as ridiculous as the idea that Trump and Assange are Russian assets.
https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/democrats.judiciary.house....
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Well, maybe he should not have also offended (in the law and the colloquial sense) his „real“ hosts. It’s almost as if no man is an island, and also Karma.
Or raped someone, for that matter.
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Or raped someone, for that matter.
*had consensual sex without a condom with, whose partner wanted to compel him to get an STD test, when a prosecutor with a chip on her shoulder and possibly a dollar bribe in her pocket turned it into what you now think it is. Or at least want us to believe.
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I mean, Manning is in jail because Manning chooses to be in jail. Manning had an immunity deal to testify in front of a grand jury and refused to do so, leading to the contempt of court charge that currently has her in jail. She says she doesn't believe in the concept of being compelled to testify, which is fine, but the penalty for that is jail.
She is being held in solitary for 22 hours at a time. Isn't that a bit harsh for contempt of court?
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If nothing else, his persistence has been fairly impressive. I'm still bitter that he became so thoroughly partisan, though. Especially since his organization has or had the motto: "to publish fact-based stories without fear or favour".
Partisan? Hasn't he always been quite transparent about his desire to destroy the US? If Assange is partisan who is he partisan for?
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> But the reality is he can't leave Of course he can. He can walk out the door right now. He chooses not to leave because he doesn't want to deal with the consequences of what he has done. You may not agree with that but it's an undeniable fact.
I've been to prisons where you can simply walk out of the door, are those not prisons? Yours is the weirdest argument imaginable, he's forced to stay in the embassy or he'll be arrested. That is exactly how essentially all western prisons work, some of them might throw minor obstacles on the way to prevent you from walking out but it's rarely that hard.
He has not had a trial, so he neither belongs in prison nor doesn't belong in a prison. He needs to have a trial first.
Do you use the same argument for people that jump bail? "He's on the run because if he wasn't on the run he would be arrested and face trial, therefore he has no choice in the matter?" Because that's the argument you're making, and it's a ridiculous one.
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Such as? It'd be interesting to see what else he's known for
I lived down there for 7 years that coincided with his presence in the country, and I've commented on the uniqueness of Correa as a politician before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5984041 I think it's still a good comparison: Correa was his country's Bismark. He was in the right place at the right time -- Bismark himself famously having said that the job of the politician is to listen for God's footsteps and…
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Thanks for the reminder - Manning is currently not free https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/08/chelsea-mann...
"The judge said she will remain jailed until she testifies or until the grand jury concludes its work." Wow. Not even some specific number of months or anything. Appears not as a punishment but a blackmail. (edit: yes I miss the right word for this is, there is certainly a better one, I'd be happy to read a better one; edit2: right, extortion, thanks).
There are all kinds of ways the justice system can induce compliance with legal orders, from fines to imprisonment, and none of them constitute extortion.
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Someone let him sleep on their couch and then was upset he didn't move over when they passively used body language to suggest they wanted to sit there. The very concept that this is notable at all amongst the severity of everything else around this situation makes it pretty obvious to me it's just a smear. The dude is a slob so fuck em, let him rot in solitary for 30 years
No one in this thread has said anything remotely like "The dude is a slob so fuck em, let him rot in solitary for 30 years". He can be a bad house guest and not deserve to rot in prison, right? I think it's pretty clear to anyone even attempting to be objective that Assange has a "difficult personality". Even if you broadly approve of him, he's burned a lot of bridges and appears to have quite an ego.
Same rules for everyone. None of us are pure saints, and even those of us who are pure evil [1] should only be prosecuted for acts which one can reasonably believe them to be guilty of before a trial actually demonstrates the quality of the evidence.
[1] by which I mean dark triad personalities, not religious/utilitarian/etc. ethics.