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Post by mediumdeviation »

dictum wrote: post #73
unilynx wrote: post #22

120KB of javascript and still the accordion doesn't open on OSX Safari.

I recently found out that the sidebar menus on pages within https://developers.google.com/web don't work with JS off (usually a trivial thing: show sub-items by default and hide them with JS). Almost every Alphabet website has something like that. So yes, minor anecdote, and I genuinely appreciate the hundreds of Google employees who really help the Web and share useful knowledge (and don't lead developers into using…

Also the site claims to about “web fundamentals”, but the content pushed out are all articles about cutting edge, experimental features in Chrome. There’s nothing wrong with documenting new features in your browser, but calling it fundamental is fundamentally misleading.

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Post by lawnchair »

Drdrdrq wrote: post #23

> You can purchase an SSL certificate through one of our web partners or a Certificate Authority. Read this article to learn more. Really? No mention of Lets Encrypt? Does anyone still buy certificates nowadays, especially for dev sites?

Not all certificates are created equal

> Let’s Encrypt offers Domain Validation (DV) certificates. We do not offer Organization Validation (OV) or Extended Validation (EV) primarily because we cannot automate issuance for those types of certificates.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by jedberg »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #182
icebraining wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google has a long history with the Dutch auction, they used it in their IPO, back in '04.

I remember people calling that a bit of a fiasco... was there anything theoretically wrong with the application of a Dutch auction for that purpose, or was it just that the underwriting community and their clients had every reason to make the situation look bad?

The price basically ended up being set by the underwriters because they big players bought most of the shares and bid at the price they underwriters told them to bid at. It wasn't really a fiasco, it just didn't accomplish what they wanted.

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Post by dmitriid »

the_duke wrote: post #91
tambourine_man wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not working with JS disabled is bad, but not working on a major modern browser is ridiculous.

Safari is the new IE8. Every web dev I know bitches about it.

Every bad web dev bitches about it.

There's nothing about Safari that makes it "the new IE8". Ironically, the very same HN that bemoans every new thing as "why should devs jump onto this shiny new things, just slow down already" criticises Safari for not jumping onto every new thing.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by willmadden »

Alphabet has too much cash. They have a well established track record of enthusiastically backing exciting new projects way outside of their core competency just to dump them like hot garbage several years later.

They also compete in random new industries each time this happens.

It doesn't seem like a smart move to lease a domain from a politically active mega-monopoly that might decide to randomly become your competitor in 2 years.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by the_duke »

dmitriid wrote: post #194
the_duke wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Safari is the new IE8. Every web dev I know bitches about it.

Every bad web dev bitches about it. There's nothing about Safari that makes it "the new IE8". Ironically, the very same HN that bemoans every new thing as "why should devs jump onto this shiny new things, just slow down already" criticises Safari for not jumping onto every new thing.

It's not so much jumping on new things, it's implementing accepted features which has slowed down very considerably since the Blink fork.

Google was really carrying a big part of the webkit development.

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Post by lessname »

wtmt wrote: post #131
bigend wrote: post #95

There are quite a few Russian lastnames that end ”dev”, like Medvedev. I think there is going to be quite a rush for these.

There are also Indian (male) names that are just “Dev” or that end in “dev”. The word means deity or god. There could be many Indians buying these when early access ends on February 27.

"Dev" also means giant in turkish

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Post by byuu »

Drdrdrq wrote: post #23

> You can purchase an SSL certificate through one of our web partners or a Certificate Authority. Read this article to learn more. Really? No mention of Lets Encrypt? Does anyone still buy certificates nowadays, especially for dev sites?

I buy them. I don't like paying for them, but I want a certificate I know will just work for years without having to run certbot or one of its clones on my server. Well, that and LE didn't yet allow wildcard certs when I bought mine. They've already dropped their maximum validity from three to two years though, so I'll probably throw in the towel when they further reduce their validity to less than six months.

Re: Google .dev domain early access

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Post by dweekly »

whatshisface wrote: post #181

A while ago, some posts on HN went around saying that you shouldn't use third-world TLDs for your startup because some of them are unreliable stewards who would put your domain at risk. Does registering a .dev domain make you dependent on Google in the same way that registering a .ly makes you dependent on Libya?

The short answer is that yes, this domain is administered by Google through a holding entity. See https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/dev.html
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