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Re: Undercover spy exposed in NYC was one of many

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Post by gadders » Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 2:00 PM UTC

gadders wrote: post #164

noir_lord wrote: post #94

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One of the things that annoys me about this debate is that anti-semetic !== Anti Israel I've no issue with the Jews (I don't actually know any) but specific things the Israeli government does sure I do. Of course it's useful for people to conflate the two as they do with Corbyn or anyone who condemns Israel. Frankly I've no dog in the fight, I think Israel and the Palestinian's are frequently in the wrong. It's quite…

Well, this is the widely accepted definition of anti-semitism [1]. As long as you don't do anything on the list you should be OK. [1] https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/working-definition-anti...

Hacker News, where the official definition of anti-semitism gets downvotes. Stay classy.

Re: Undercover spy exposed in NYC was one of many

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 5:15 PM UTC

arminiusreturns wrote: post #112

aedron wrote: post #74

'By Way of Deception', written years ago by a former high ranking Mossad officer, made it seem like American government institutions in NY and Washington were crawling with Israeli intelligence, some acknowledged, many not. The book was well sourced and generally considered credible.

I wonder what the media would say of there were as many dual citizenship Russians in Congress as there are dual citizenship Israelis... Yet, not a peep... but you can be sure "ze Russians are coming" !

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Re: Undercover spy exposed in NYC was one of many

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Post by 69132 » Wed, Feb 13, 2019, 8:21 AM UTC

benchaney wrote: post #159

TLAFanBoy wrote: post #129

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Obviously, no one said anything about "assassination" by Mossad. Your attempted use of reductio ad absurdum was in bad faith. One would likely be more concerned with being accused of "anti-semitism" and having your name google-bombed by a Zionist smear campaign like Canary Mission. [0] Imagine having a potential client or employer finding your name on a list of "anti-semite Israel haters" for doing nothing more that…

Can you give an example of someone who is on that list for nothing more than suggesting Palestinians have humans rights, or that Israel engages in espionage in the United States? I clicked on a few people at random and they were all there because they advocated killing jews.

throwaway54353 gave you the answer that you asked for. We're still waiting your reply...

Re: Undercover spy exposed in NYC was one of many

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Post by benchaney » Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 3:30 AM UTC

69132 wrote: post #193

benchaney wrote: post #159

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Can you give an example of someone who is on that list for nothing more than suggesting Palestinians have humans rights, or that Israel engages in espionage in the United States? I clicked on a few people at random and they were all there because they advocated killing jews.

throwaway54353 gave you the answer that you asked for. We're still waiting your reply...

I thought that it was pretty self evident that supporting BDS is different than "suggesting Palestinians have human rights or that Israel engages in an aggressive espionage campaign against the United States?", but apparently not everyone has caught on to the fact that words have meanings.

Re: Undercover spy exposed in NYC was one of many

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Post by maconic » Thu, Feb 14, 2019, 5:38 AM UTC

I'm a little late to the conversation, but this seems to be hijacked into an anti-Israel/anti-Semitic discussion rather than about spying, so I'd like to suggest one (hopefully obvious) point: nationality and ethnicity seems to intermixed too much. If I don't like the Syrian regime, it doesn't mean I'm anti-Arab or anti-Alawite. Similarly, it should be possible to oppose actions of policy of a nation state without being accused anti-WhateverTheEthnicMajorityOfThatNationIs. I assume if someone opposes a U.S. policy, it isn't because they are anti-WASP (White Anglo Saxon Protestant)... they just genuinely dislike American policies :)