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Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by washadjeffmad »

Lazare wrote: post #173

There is a uniquely annoying feeling you get when you see someone powerful being utterly obtuse and wrong in a way that is damaging to others, but can't readily be challenged. Everything about this story is just so fundamentally wrongheaded. They're enforcing a deeply misguided policy in a way which is both inconsistent and unfair, yet also inept. There's just so much wrong here, it's hard to even know where to start…

Google is unable to scale its ability to moderate its platforms with its level of growth, and we're seeing the effects of its implementation of "zero tolerance" in this uncontestable, absolutist decision making that customers can only have addressed by stirring up a potential PR stink.

Just like in many governments, it's significantly easier to address the immediate concerns of a few powerful entities and just the outcome of elections of the masses, except when they organize.

Google, for good or I'll, has truly become a model virtual nation.

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Post by benologist »

washadjeffmad wrote: post #191
Lazare wrote: post #173

There is a uniquely annoying feeling you get when you see someone powerful being utterly obtuse and wrong in a way that is damaging to others, but can't readily be challenged. Everything about this story is just so fundamentally wrongheaded. They're enforcing a deeply misguided policy in a way which is both inconsistent and unfair, yet also inept. There's just so much wrong here, it's hard to even know where to start…

Google is unable to scale its ability to moderate its platforms with its level of growth, and we're seeing the effects of its implementation of "zero tolerance" in this uncontestable, absolutist decision making that customers can only have addressed by stirring up a potential PR stink. Just like in many governments, it's significantly easier to address the immediate concerns of a few powerful entities and just the ou…

Pretty funny how their cash hoarding can scale to $100b+ but they can't provide any level of support or recourse to Play Store developers at all.

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Post by mooman219 »

Lazare wrote: post #173

There is a uniquely annoying feeling you get when you see someone powerful being utterly obtuse and wrong in a way that is damaging to others, but can't readily be challenged. Everything about this story is just so fundamentally wrongheaded. They're enforcing a deeply misguided policy in a way which is both inconsistent and unfair, yet also inept. There's just so much wrong here, it's hard to even know where to start…

Let's be realistic, this applies to all walled gardens, including Apple's store.

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Post by int_19h »

sydd wrote: post #162
int_19h wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you wondered why extremely successful cultures today are the ones that tend to be less rather than more prudish?

Not true, the US is quite prudish and successful. The OP I'd a fine example; if Google would be French or Japanese I doubt this would be an issue.

US is far less prudish than median. If you compare it to other developed countries, sure, it's on the more prudish end. But if you compare it to most everywhere else, it's a whole different story.

For example, Sayyid Qutb - the grandfather of modern Salafism - became radicalized after visiting US in 1940s, and observing its culture. Here's how he describes it in his writings:

"The American girl is well acquainted with her body's seductive capacity. She knows it lies in the face, and in expressive eyes, and thirsty lips. She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs -- and she shows all this and does not hide it."

"They danced to the tunes of the gramophone, and the dance floor was replete with tapping feet, enticing legs, arms wrapped around waists, lips pressed to lips, and chests pressed to chests. The atmosphere was full of desire."

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Post by eli »

snaky wrote: post #114
eli wrote: post #109

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Most people don’t run Adblock on mobile and probably aren’t getting any better ad rates running native ads vs mobile web.

Mobile app can gather a lot more user data.

Yeah it can, but I don’t believe it generates much more revenue for the publisher.

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Post by [deleted] »

sangnoir wrote: post #166
partiallypro wrote: post #132

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The US has pretty liberal standards on pornography and art...I mean most pornography and such art is produced in the US itself. Tasteful nudity in the US is not frowned upon, perhaps in public, yes...but I don't know of many countries where that isn't frowned upon outside beaches. I'm not sure what you're referring to, or if you are that familiar with the US. The UK on the other hand and some other European countries…

> I mean most pornography and such art is produced in the US itself Most US pornography is produced in San Fernando Valley - I don't think you can generalize porn/nude art across the US so perhaps you ought to have said "California has pretty liberal standards on pornography and art". Janet Jackson's Nipplegate wouldn't have been a big deal in any of the European countries you mentioned, but Americans were scandalize…

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Post by dang »

ytqaz wrote: post #113
badpun wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you wondered why extremely successful cultures (Christian, Muslim) have/had rules against public nudity? I had, and my (layman) conclusions were that public nudity creates too much sexual tension, and that is bad for stability of society. Hence, societies just function better without public nudity.

That's what's causing the downfall of western society: forgetting that we owe everything to Christianity.

Religious flamewar will get you banned here. Please don't post like that to HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by sangnoir »

shams93 wrote: post #180
sangnoir wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I mean most pornography and such art is produced in the US itself Most US pornography is produced in San Fernando Valley - I don't think you can generalize porn/nude art across the US so perhaps you ought to have said "California has pretty liberal standards on pornography and art". Janet Jackson's Nipplegate wouldn't have been a big deal in any of the European countries you mentioned, but Americans were scandalize…

Most porn USED to be produced in the SF Valley, I used to work in the industry. A whole series of new laws forced the industry out of California. My old boss sells insurance now. A lot of modern porn is now produced in eastern europe. Basically no new porn is produced in SFV, only the softcore companies like Vivid are still in business here.

I know free porn on the web was debilitating to the industry; however, to my knowledge no US state is close to CA's production, even now; which was my point, it's not like there's a whole lot of (professional) porn coming out of OH, MS or IL

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Post by brian-armstrong »

eli wrote: post #109
brian-armstrong wrote: post #50

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I don't think they'll want to, if they're ad supported. Adblockers don't run on native apps, and in general apps have better access to relevant ad sell info. A lot of ad supported companies are giving up on the web.

Most people don’t run Adblock on mobile and probably aren’t getting any better ad rates running native ads vs mobile web.

I'm not sure what the numbers are, but I'd bet most Reddit users do run an ad blocker.
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