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Re: Why Sleep Apnea Patients Rely on a CPAP Machine Hacker

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Post by tptacek »

dpeck wrote: post #189
bigbluedots wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that you get 6 hours of sleep and are not tired/foggy during the day I'd say it's unlikely you have sleep apnea.

Theres some level of being always tired and just being attuned to it. Not putting that diagnosis on parent, but I'd put myself in that bucket, and I'd wager its easy for old hackers like me who spent a lot of nights exploring/working/studying to the point of exhaustion during their teens and twenties.

I had this discussion on HN almost 10 years ago (wow, I'm old) and 'iamelgringo --- a (former?) ER nurse --- shut me down pretty hard.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2030433

Re: Why Sleep Apnea Patients Rely on a CPAP Machine Hacker

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Post by geor9 »

dfischer wrote: post #158

Is there any cheap way to get a CPAP evaluation and device? I’m in startup grind mode and just don’t have the extra funds right now but I’m curious if this is why I feel lethargic all the time.

Only on NH will "poor" be phrased "in startup grind mode".

Re: Why Sleep Apnea Patients Rely on a CPAP Machine Hacker

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Post by bhc »

goshx wrote: post #141

I was using a CPAP machine that I couldn't see the data nor extract it to use with SleppyHead. It was awful because the appointments with the doctor were 6 months apart and they were basically about a lot of leak detected by the machine and let's try to adjust it and see in 6 months if it was fixed. Awful. Almost 3 years later I requested another sleep study because I was done with no progress. The study found out th…

How do people obtain regulated medical devices like CPAP without a prescription? I assume a sleep study is required to get a prescription from a doctor.

Re: Why Sleep Apnea Patients Rely on a CPAP Machine Hacker

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Post by jchw »

bhc wrote: post #193
goshx wrote: post #141

I was using a CPAP machine that I couldn't see the data nor extract it to use with SleppyHead. It was awful because the appointments with the doctor were 6 months apart and they were basically about a lot of leak detected by the machine and let's try to adjust it and see in 6 months if it was fixed. Awful. Almost 3 years later I requested another sleep study because I was done with no progress. The study found out th…

How do people obtain regulated medical devices like CPAP without a prescription? I assume a sleep study is required to get a prescription from a doctor.

I think there's a loophole in that you can buy CPAP machines without a prescription from second-hand sellers. Last I checked it looked pretty inexpensive, too. So, really, you don't need a prescription to try one if you really wanted to.

There's probably some safety concerns, but I've become cynical about a lot of it. Doctors of course want everyone to go to the doctor first, but is it really that dangerous to use a CPAP machine if you didn't need one?

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Post by the_clarence »

all_blue_chucks wrote: post #162
the_clarence wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What were your symptoms and what kind of difference do you feel now?

The primary symptoms are snoring and fatigue.

How much fatigue though? I'm often tired but I've gotten used to it and can go through my day.

Re: Why Sleep Apnea Patients Rely on a CPAP Machine Hacker

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Post by [deleted] »

outworlder wrote: post #188
zw123456 wrote: post #185

Why do people need CPAP machines, why can't you simply sleep on your side? Most primates instinctively know how to sleep in the best positions ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1119282/ ) humans insist on sleeping on their backs which other primates instinctively know is dangerous.

> Why do people need CPAP machines, why can't you simply sleep on your side? Because they have issues which require CPAP machines. If I sleep on my side, the apnea situation improves slightly, but it does not go away at all. Do you think that people would prefer to deal with a bulky and unconfortable machine, as well as doctor appointments, if they could simply sleep on their sides?

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Re: Why Sleep Apnea Patients Rely on a CPAP Machine Hacker

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Post by [deleted] »

outworlder wrote: post #188
zw123456 wrote: post #185

Why do people need CPAP machines, why can't you simply sleep on your side? Most primates instinctively know how to sleep in the best positions ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1119282/ ) humans insist on sleeping on their backs which other primates instinctively know is dangerous.

> Why do people need CPAP machines, why can't you simply sleep on your side? Because they have issues which require CPAP machines. If I sleep on my side, the apnea situation improves slightly, but it does not go away at all. Do you think that people would prefer to deal with a bulky and unconfortable machine, as well as doctor appointments, if they could simply sleep on their sides?

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Re: Why Sleep Apnea Patients Rely on a CPAP Machine Hacker

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Post by [deleted] »

outworlder wrote: post #188
zw123456 wrote: post #185

Why do people need CPAP machines, why can't you simply sleep on your side? Most primates instinctively know how to sleep in the best positions ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1119282/ ) humans insist on sleeping on their backs which other primates instinctively know is dangerous.

> Why do people need CPAP machines, why can't you simply sleep on your side? Because they have issues which require CPAP machines. If I sleep on my side, the apnea situation improves slightly, but it does not go away at all. Do you think that people would prefer to deal with a bulky and unconfortable machine, as well as doctor appointments, if they could simply sleep on their sides?

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Re: Why Sleep Apnea Patients Rely on a CPAP Machine Hacker

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Post by [deleted] »

outworlder wrote: post #188
zw123456 wrote: post #185

Why do people need CPAP machines, why can't you simply sleep on your side? Most primates instinctively know how to sleep in the best positions ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1119282/ ) humans insist on sleeping on their backs which other primates instinctively know is dangerous.

> Why do people need CPAP machines, why can't you simply sleep on your side? Because they have issues which require CPAP machines. If I sleep on my side, the apnea situation improves slightly, but it does not go away at all. Do you think that people would prefer to deal with a bulky and unconfortable machine, as well as doctor appointments, if they could simply sleep on their sides?

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Re: Why Sleep Apnea Patients Rely on a CPAP Machine Hacker

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Post by brokenmachine »

rocqua wrote: post #134
aidenn0 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not how free markets work. Otherwise food would also cost everything you own.

Any kind of food will do to prevent starvation given a slight mix. So, if you won't sell me potato's for a decent price, I'll just get rice from somewhere else. In medicine, you tend to need very specific treatments. This means the set of potential suppliers is much lower, which essentially means the supply is restricted. If you won't sell me an epi-pen for less than 100 dollars, there aren't a lot of places I can tu…

> So if we turn dialysis, heart surgery, etc. into free markets, there are going to be people who need those treatments that cannot pay for them.

Isn't that exactly what happens now?

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