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UFOs spotted off Irish coast under investigation

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Re: UFOs spotted off Irish coast under investigation

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Post by ashildr »

puranjay wrote: post #108
pubby wrote: post #30

A few months ago I was walking alone in the park when I saw a bright light moving in strange patterns in the sky. It scared the pants off of me. For about a day my mind was nothing but paranoid thoughts. I had fear that I had seen something that I shouldn't have. That not only extraterrestrial life was real, but that they knew of my existence and would be coming for me. Or perhaps they were coming for all of us. I wa…

I was on a beach off the eastern coast of Sri Lanka late in the night. I saw what seemed like a star dart around in the sky. I figured it was just an aircraft, but it moved extremely fast in a near zig-zag fashion, making sharp angled turns - something no aircraft can do. I've been on a UFO binge lately, prompted by all the news about Oumuamua. So many credible and fascinating reports. I've also seen less resistance…

What makes you guess it wasn’t a drone?

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Post by cr1895 »

sockgrant wrote: post #47
pubby wrote: post #30

A few months ago I was walking alone in the park when I saw a bright light moving in strange patterns in the sky. It scared the pants off of me. For about a day my mind was nothing but paranoid thoughts. I had fear that I had seen something that I shouldn't have. That not only extraterrestrial life was real, but that they knew of my existence and would be coming for me. Or perhaps they were coming for all of us. I wa…

Had that same feeling years ago. Went out to a dark place to see the stars. Ended up seeing a light jumping around on the horizon. Then there was a bright white flash that lit up the whole field and forest, but not like lightning. No shadows, no source of light. There wasn't a cloud in the sky, no thunder. It wasn't lightning. Pretty scared, I kept watching the jumping light on the horizon. A few minutes later the wh…

Sounds like the Marfa lights in the west Texas high desert:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marfa_lights

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Post by ryacko »

wowtip wrote: post #184
eksemplar wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you time travel without being able to alter your location in space? I mean, the earth is moving pretty fast, if you popped back a few hours, wouldn’t you land in empty space?

Yes, you would need to adjust for that. Might be the explanation for why the guys from the future shows up in spaceships. I guess it would be dangerous calculating slightly wrong and instead end up inside earth or inside a building's wall. Better to appear some distance out into space and then fly the last few hundred miles to earth.

The galaxy is rotating and moving through space. All estimated speeds are in relation to other objects.

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Post by lloeki »

gnulinux wrote: post #122
flukus wrote: post #107

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Could be one skipping off the atmosphere. Aero breaking ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobraking ) if you want to stick with the spacecraft theory.

I'm not an astronomer but it seems unlikely to me a meteor skipping off atmosphere would be as slow as Mach 2 and not hot enough to shine red.

What if it was perceptually at Mach 2 / distance X yet really was at Mach 20 / distance 10 * X ? (Bullshitting numbers here, but you get the point)

Angular speed across FoV is a function of distance from the object and the only thing that makes us understand that high altitude airplanes are nowhere close to a standstill is that we can infer distance from the intrinsic knowledge of the airplane size.

If all observers are close enough together we'd be unable to uncover the illusion, as that would require a widespread enough configuration.

Additionally, I question the "astronomical" attribute, especially with planes cruising at ~800kph, Mach 2 is at most 2.5 their typical speed. Concorde is hardly astronomical, and although jet fighters are not chasing for top speed anymore some of them are still able to go to such Mach factors. Now, Mach 12, that would be closing in to being astronomical (entering the order of magnitude of an ICBM descent speed).

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Post by lloeki »

ghthor wrote: post #112
drb91 wrote: post #104

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Well, if our the earth hasn’t already been irreversibly destroyed already, it will be extremely soon. Now might be a good time to end observation.

Life on earth survived the KT boundary asteroid impact. Life on earth isn't going to end from our activity, it will only end from our inactivity in protecting the earth and the sun from major cosmic impacts. We need to get out shit together and stop feeling guilty about burning all the oil. We need to do whatever it takes to get established in space and the moon, ready to deflect and close call objects. We are nature…

> Life on earth isn't going to end from our activity

Although unlikely, I can envision a plausible pessimistic runaway scenario where we turn Earth into a Venus-like world due to sheer collective stupidity over a sufficiently large timescale. Maybe not completely sterile but having only some hardened bacteria survive is hardly a hopeful outcome for "life".

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Post by Zamicol »

bemmu wrote: post #43
pubby wrote: post #30

A few months ago I was walking alone in the park when I saw a bright light moving in strange patterns in the sky. It scared the pants off of me. For about a day my mind was nothing but paranoid thoughts. I had fear that I had seen something that I shouldn't have. That not only extraterrestrial life was real, but that they knew of my existence and would be coming for me. Or perhaps they were coming for all of us. I wa…

Once this happened to me with a friend. We were staring at the sky when suddenly a progression of lights started moving quickly across the sky. At first I thought it might be a shower of large meteors about to hit us. Later on discovered someone had just released a bunch of sky lanterns, something I'd never seen before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_lantern It can be tricky to judge the distance, speed and size o…

I second this.

Sky lanterns definitely look other worldly under the right conditions.

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Post by rocqua »

eksemplar wrote: post #181
kromem wrote: post #164

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The time travel argument I've always found to be far more compelling than the extra terrestrial argument. For example, similarity of physical form (with exaggerated evolutionary aspects relating to modern society, such as bigger eyes/brains, and diminished aspects that would be obsolete, such as weakened physical strength). And in a universe where different systems could be billions of years different in age, the UFO…

Can you time travel without being able to alter your location in space? I mean, the earth is moving pretty fast, if you popped back a few hours, wouldn’t you land in empty space?

that presumes something like 'time teleportation'. Time travel based on changing / reversing your 'speed of time' doesn't have that.

Kind of like the difference between wormhole based FTL and warp drive based FTL. In one, you just teleport, in the other, you still travel in a continuous line.

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Post by rocqua »

fit2rule wrote: post #171
boomboomsubban wrote: post #151

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For good reason. We know that the CIA dosed people with LSD without their knowledge, which alone would explain most bizarre phenomena, and we know that the CIA claim to have destroyed most of their records of what they did in the program. Pretty easy to link anything to the program, and it's often one of the least strange options.

We also know that MK ULTRA and programs very similar to it, have been continued to present day.

Source?

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Post by krapp »

fit2rule wrote: post #171
boomboomsubban wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For good reason. We know that the CIA dosed people with LSD without their knowledge, which alone would explain most bizarre phenomena, and we know that the CIA claim to have destroyed most of their records of what they did in the program. Pretty easy to link anything to the program, and it's often one of the least strange options.

We also know that MK ULTRA and programs very similar to it, have been continued to present day.

> We also know that MK ULTRA and programs very similar to it, have been continued to present day.

Do we though?

People assume so, because it fits a paranoid narrative that allows them to "mind control" people, but I'm not aware of any actual proof that MK ULTRA or "programs very similar to it" continue to the present day. As far as I know the program was a failure, like experiments in remote viewing and attempts to surgically implant microphones into stray cats hoping they would wander next to the Soviets.

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