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Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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This happened to me today! I was using my phone and then it went all weird with no haptic feedback when typing. I finally figured out that battery saver was on and disabled it... This really bothers me... I am starting to think we need a truly open source phone. That is hardware and software. like GNU/phone or something. We must have full control over our hardware and software! Viva La Gnu! (no clue what this actuall…

This has nothing to do with FOSS. If you are running an OS built by somebody why would you expect to not run new code from that person?

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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We need silent updates to be disabled by default until the user opts in, and we need 7 figure bug bounties on any method of bypassing that. We also need a certificate transparency type system for updates so users know whether how unique the update they're being asked to accept is. Otherwise this functionality will be abused for wiretapping purposes.

Requiring users to manually update is a security nightmare. There is no getting around this. Automatic updates are a tremendous win for security.

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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Most people buy Google phones specifically because they want Google to remotely manipulate their phones as quickly as possible with the latest Candy-named software. It's an in-demand feature.

There's a difference between fast-software updates and turning on/off certain features without the user's consent.

Is there? When calendar rolls out with a new UI is that different?

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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I'd love something like the Fairphone[0] running a proper Linux distro. That would basically be my dream phone right now. (I have no experience with that phone or whether it's good, just found it mentioned recently and very curious about it in general) [0] https://shop.fairphone.com/en/buy-fairphone2-2/

This looks absolutely amazing -- reasonably ethically sourced and it runs LineageOS. Does anyone have one of these that would care to comment on what ownership is like?

I've been trying to find good reviews and feedback too, but all I can seem to find are people saying it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, or that it's a piece of crap that doesn't even work.

I generally don't trust any review that goes to the extremes like that, as I find it incredibly hard to believe that a device can have such extreme difference of views unless there's bias or intent behind it.

Super keen to hear from anyone who can give me a proper breakdown of pros/cons though. I'm very close to buying one, but I don't have the expendable income to take too big a risk on stuff like this (I know it's always a risk, but still).

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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I'd love something like the Fairphone[0] running a proper Linux distro. That would basically be my dream phone right now. (I have no experience with that phone or whether it's good, just found it mentioned recently and very curious about it in general) [0] https://shop.fairphone.com/en/buy-fairphone2-2/

The Fairphone runs Ubuntu Touch, which is now managed under the UBPorts Foundation. https://ubports.com/ https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/

Their site says it runs Android 6.0, and the UBPorts site says Fairphone 2 has random reboots and other issues running Ubuntu Touch?

Have you had successful experience running Ubuntu Touch on the Fairphone 2? I'm ok with occasional bugs, but it needs to be still be reliable as a daily phone.

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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LineageOS was working great for me on my Oneplus 3T for about 6 months, but something has gone wrong with recent updates. It has started slowing down to the point of being unusable and I have to reset my phone several times a day. There have been about 6 updates since I started seeing the issue and it hasn't been addressed. I loathe going back to Oneplus's stock ROM as they modified it to kill background processes to…

Please consider generating a log file and create a bug report for them to look at: https://wiki.lineageos.org/logcat.html https://jira.lineageos.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa They do look at them. But I would suggest taking a quick glance at those logs and see if you notice anything familiar. It may be something you recognize.

I appreciate the advice but the phone isn't even responsive enough to run logcat.

I tried running it before it starts locking up and don't see anything of note.

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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You can avoid all of this by using an iPhone. Apple's business model does not involve ad revenue or data collection. Your data is collected but is used purely to improve the iPhone. Your data is intentionally obfuscated for privacy. For an example of Apple's strict policy, check out this article on Apple Maps: https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/29/apple-is-rebuilding-maps-f...

Apple's business model heavily relies on planned obsolescence to bully you into throwing away YOUR working iPhone when they've decided its time for you to drop another 700-1000$ by making their latest OS so slow that your phone is essentially unusable. Of course you'll also have to throw away all the expensive accessories you might own because the connection port has changed format too, yet again. At least on Android…

> Apple's business model heavily relies on planned obsolescence to bully you into throwing away YOUR working iPhone when they've decided its time for you to drop another 700-1000$ by making their latest OS so slow that your phone is essentially unusable.

Ah. That’ll explain why the 5s - a phone that was released 5 years ago - is still supported with iOS 12.

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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Apple's business model heavily relies on planned obsolescence to bully you into throwing away YOUR working iPhone when they've decided its time for you to drop another 700-1000$ by making their latest OS so slow that your phone is essentially unusable. Of course you'll also have to throw away all the expensive accessories you might own because the connection port has changed format too, yet again. At least on Android…

> Apple's business model heavily relies on planned obsolescence to bully you into throwing away YOUR working iPhone when they've decided its time for you to drop another 700-1000$ by making their latest OS so slow that your phone is essentially unusable. Ah. That’ll explain why the 5s - a phone that was released 5 years ago - is still supported with iOS 12.

Supported? Yes. Usable and not excruciatingly slow? Not so sure.

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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That is a combination of different problems. Updates are hard in general, to which there aren't too many mainstream solutions. Emerging ones seem to be in nixos, rpmostree etc. However, ubuntu/debian has a more pedestrian problem, which is that they do a bunch of junk in the post install scripts (like automatically starting and enabling the systemd service for the package). Systemd being a fragile flake will break. T…

I have had some files deleted due to this, to my despair My whole /tmp/ directory was silently deleted by some "cleanup" systemd shit, hours after an update that changed my configuration.

In fairness, deleting (even moderately) old stuff from /tmp is a Unix convention that goes back roughly three decades prior to the very existence of systemd. In SCO Unix in the early 1990s, for example, it was the task of the /usr/lib/cleantmp program. AIX had a script, invoked by a daily cron job, called /usr/sbin/skulker that did this and more besides.

Putting stuff in /tmp and expecting it to stick around has been a user and indeed a system administration mistake for all of that time, motivating, for example, warnings like this in Kent's & Williams' 1990 Encyclopedia of Computer Science and Technology (volume 22, "The UNIX operating system"):

> /tmp and /usr/tmp: These directories are used by utility programs to contain temporary files. They are cleaned out periodically, so files should not be stored here.

Que Corporation's Using UNIX and Using Linux both said:

> Because the system automatically deletes the contents of this directory periodically, do not keep anything you might need later in this directory.

15 years before the existence of systemd, Linux Filesystem Structure (later to become the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard) was similarly warning:

> /tmp may be cleaned out at boot time or at relatively frequent intervals. Therefore, data stored in /tmp should not be expected to remain for any long period.

A mere 13 years before the existence of systemd, that warning was made starker:

> Programs must not assume that any files or directories in /tmp are preserved between invocations of the program.

Re: Google activated battery saving mode on multiple phones, then rolled it back

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Apple's business model heavily relies on planned obsolescence to bully you into throwing away YOUR working iPhone when they've decided its time for you to drop another 700-1000$ by making their latest OS so slow that your phone is essentially unusable. Of course you'll also have to throw away all the expensive accessories you might own because the connection port has changed format too, yet again. At least on Android…

> Apple's business model heavily relies on planned obsolescence to bully you into throwing away YOUR working iPhone when they've decided its time for you to drop another 700-1000$ by making their latest OS so slow that your phone is essentially unusable. Ah. That’ll explain why the 5s - a phone that was released 5 years ago - is still supported with iOS 12.

My wife is currently using a 5c. It's not great, but is working perfectly fine for everyday usage.
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