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Why I’m Using a Flip Phone

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Dumbphone user since 2006 here. Non-Luddite. Main reasons for avoiding the switch : 1) When not using computers for work [or chess] purposes, I want to spend as little time as practical staring at a screen. I have lots of non-computer activities to attend to [gardening, studying, home maintenance, etc etc] and a family to look after. 2) I am a strong adherent to the notion that one is well-advised to maintain awarene…

You're in a gloomy waiting room. You arrived early, so could be waiting awhile. Nothing to read except a few old Vogue magazines. You're by yourself, you didn't bring a book. Your inventory is a wallet, keys, and flip phone. What is your next move?

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They mean the Photomeggadon. The Photocalypse. The Big Kodak Moment. IMNSHO, the parent is simply behaving reactively to the threat of new paradigms. Email does not convey the emotion of a phone call, let alone a video call. Easy access to information fosters discussion - by ending pointless, heated debates over nothing. Only teenagers, and I now presume, older people, fuddle with their phones instead of talking to t…

>Photomeggadon One hit on google and that's you! Nice!

That's just because Google doesn't index Library of Babel! https://libraryofbabel.info/bookmark.cgi?fsgju,xzpeiboivi.ul...

Re: Why I’m Using a Flip Phone

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post #95

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I email my family and schedule videochat. I don't have a GP. If I'm ill, I just go to a walk-in clinic. I can also schedule appointments online. When I was too sick to go out at all and due to a particular situation I didn't have web access either, I asked a neighbour to make a phone call for me. I live in a city where I can rely on the help of others. For some official business, I use the landline at work to talk to…

All this seems needlessly complicated just to avoid having even a simple phone.

It seems complicated to explain, but it's not something that really impacts me much. It really is an okay way to live and the benefits of not having a phone really outweigh the drawbacks for me. It's super-valuable for me to be truly and completely jacked out.

Re: Why I’m Using a Flip Phone

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I've never really owned a smartphone before 2013, despite the first iphone being released in 2007

When I used to travel a lot a few years back, I went extremely low tech. I wanted to appreciate the beauty each city had to offer and nature as it was meant to be.

I didn't have a data plan and would just memorize maps at the hostel before I set off for an adventure.

To tell the time I would simply just look at the sun and shadows projected. I would know this after the first day since I would have some benchmarks there. The sun rises from east and to the west, but the amount it changes per hour depends on what hemisphere you are in. And the season too ?I believe?

Consequently, this is how I would determine where North, East, West, and South is. I would have a mental model in my head based on how many steps I took to know where I am on the map. I used mostly relative positioning and landmarks in densely populated cities to determine this.

I would carry a paper map with me though, in the event I got lost.

The only downside to having no smartphone is that nighttime navigation was extremely difficult. There was no sun to navigate, I couldn't use the northstar since the lights in the city were too bright to see it.

People think I'm joking when I use sun navigation but I am not. Looking up at the sun is actually sometimes faster to determine the time and direction then having to whip out your phone. This was true especially during flip phone times, but not so much because of how useful smartphones have gotten / smartwatches.

Historically using the sun to determine time was how it was always done since Ancient greek / Egyptian times with Sun Dials.

I also used to parasail too, sometimes on the lake I relied on sun navigation to determine where I was at, since whipping out a phone or looking at a compass is sometimes not reasonable at the time. Especailly when I have my hand on the rudder and the other on ?whatever rope controled the mast?

Re: Why I’m Using a Flip Phone

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post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I email my family and schedule videochat. I don't have a GP. If I'm ill, I just go to a walk-in clinic. I can also schedule appointments online. When I was too sick to go out at all and due to a particular situation I didn't have web access either, I asked a neighbour to make a phone call for me. I live in a city where I can rely on the help of others. For some official business, I use the landline at work to talk to…

As youve mentioned in your post, you rely on other people having a personal phone so that you don't need to carry one. Regarding the GP, this is presumably dependent on the country you live in. In the UK you have a specific clinic you sign up with. None of the 4 clinics I've used have taken walk in appointments, all have required phoning that morning to get a scheduled appointment that day.

I don't really have to rely on others to carry a phone. And when I do ask for help; I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Relying on each other is why we have society at all. There are also public phones that I have used on occasion. Also, it's usually just a convenience. If I am truly and completely alone, I am willing to bear the risk of being unable to use a phone to contact someone.

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post #19

Life with a smart phone is so much better than life before a smart phone. It's hard to realise how recently they came around. I've probably only had the internet on my phone for five years (I've had a smart phone for longer, but I couldn't get the data to work and data was expensive enough at the time I didn't care). I can communicate with my fiancee even when she's in another country (international sms = fail). I ca…

I’m not a Luddite by any stretch and I’ve had smart phones since they were quite dumb, but your reasons don’t ring for me: > I can communicate with my fiancee even when she's in another country (international sms = fail). It facilitates instant communications. Email across the planet has been around since day one. > I can have a fiancee who's in another country. I can assure you this was possible pre-smart phone. > W…

It's also nice sitting in silence with only my thoughts, watching the world go by.

Re: Why I’m Using a Flip Phone

#197
post #19

Life with a smart phone is so much better than life before a smart phone. It's hard to realise how recently they came around. I've probably only had the internet on my phone for five years (I've had a smart phone for longer, but I couldn't get the data to work and data was expensive enough at the time I didn't care). I can communicate with my fiancee even when she's in another country (international sms = fail). I ca…

I’m not a Luddite by any stretch and I’ve had smart phones since they were quite dumb, but your reasons don’t ring for me: > I can communicate with my fiancee even when she's in another country (international sms = fail). It facilitates instant communications. Email across the planet has been around since day one. > I can have a fiancee who's in another country. I can assure you this was possible pre-smart phone. > W…

You might not be a Luddite, but you are being very dismissive. The convenience and opportunity aspects of having an always connected computer in your pocket might not appeal to you, but I can assure you that it's a huge deal for the rest of us.

You counterpoints all seem to distill down to some variation of being opposed to people having options or embracing convenience.

Re: Why I’m Using a Flip Phone

#198

Dumbphone user since 2006 here. Non-Luddite. Main reasons for avoiding the switch : 1) When not using computers for work [or chess] purposes, I want to spend as little time as practical staring at a screen. I have lots of non-computer activities to attend to [gardening, studying, home maintenance, etc etc] and a family to look after. 2) I am a strong adherent to the notion that one is well-advised to maintain awarene…

You're in a gloomy waiting room. You arrived early, so could be waiting awhile. Nothing to read except a few old Vogue magazines. You're by yourself, you didn't bring a book. Your inventory is a wallet, keys, and flip phone. What is your next move?

Just sit and think. Watch other people. Read the old Vogue magazines. Listen to the conversations between employees. A lot of the time there will be a TV on or some music playing.

It's really not that bad if you're not used to the constant stimulation that smartphones (and to a lesser extent, all internet connected computers) provide.

Re: Why I’m Using a Flip Phone

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post #20

Anyone have tips on some good US flip phones that work with modern networks (4G)? In a perfect world, with GPS (but not required)?

I have high hopes for this: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/light-phone-2-design#/

Not a flip phone, but also not a smart phone.

Re: Why I’m Using a Flip Phone

#200

Life with a smart phone is so much better than life before a smart phone. It's hard to realise how recently they came around. I've probably only had the internet on my phone for five years (I've had a smart phone for longer, but I couldn't get the data to work and data was expensive enough at the time I didn't care). I can communicate with my fiancee even when she's in another country (international sms = fail). I ca…

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