Don't Provide Your References to a Recruiter Until After Your Last Interview

Post by realusername » Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 8:43 AM UTC

MisterBastahrd wrote: post #126

reureu wrote: post #95

I got a call from an external recruiter: "I have a candidate who would be a great fit for your company." I'm just a lowly data scientist with no hiring power, and at that job the entire data science team was quitting. So, I mentioned that I didn't think the team was growing since it seemed to be actively shrinking with no new reqs that I was aware of. Recruiter immediately turned it around and said they could represe…

I once got an email from a recruiter asking me if I was interested in a position at a company that he had a great working relationship with. I was the person doing the interviews for the position he was trying to hire for, and I'd never talked to him before in my life.

Post by Broken_Hippo » Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 9:03 AM UTC

greggarious wrote: post #113

ageitgey wrote: post #37

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This is so important! Story time: I once hired someone as a Mid/Senior Dev at a large company in SV who had strong dev skills. Everything seemed great at first and we were very excited to have this person join the team. I respected this dev and had no personal issues with them. Our interactions were positive. However this person quit suddenly after maybe two weeks because they didn't like having to justify their tech…

To clarify: you took issue with this person quitting mainly? I'd be careful saying negative things about an employee for quitting - under at will laws, it can create legal liability to retaliate when someone exercises their at-will rights.

Post by heavenlyblue » Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 10:32 AM UTC

fphhotchips wrote: post #166

ransom1538 wrote: post #165

Why do people use recruiters? %99 percent of the time you can figure out who the company is they are representing. Often recruiter sites will even list the companies they represent. EVERY startup I have worked for that does hiring, hates paying the %20+ markup for a hire. We would much rather give that cash to the new employee and use it to be more competitive. If there are two candidates with equal skill sets, one i…

Competent recruiters with good reputations and connections are like gold - especially in markets that aren't "Software Developer in Coastal USA". They know the state of the market, the main players, who is looking, who is good to work for, what the pay is going to be and whether applying is worth your time. They understand the value of establishing relationships with good people and will work to ensure a good fit for…

Post by loftyal » Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 10:47 AM UTC

vosper wrote: post #30

TamDenholm wrote: post #11

Being a contractor in the UK for the last 13 years i quickly learned when i first started that any recruiter that asks for references before they've even sent the CV to the client is a lying cheating scumbag and will get told outright where to go. All they are doing it looking for leads.

Recruiters in the UK are much sleazier than in the US, in my experience.

Post by vonmoltke » Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 11:40 AM UTC

ransom1538 wrote: post #165

Why do people use recruiters? %99 percent of the time you can figure out who the company is they are representing. Often recruiter sites will even list the companies they represent. EVERY startup I have worked for that does hiring, hates paying the %20+ markup for a hire. We would much rather give that cash to the new employee and use it to be more competitive. If there are two candidates with equal skill sets, one i…