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Re: Google quits selling tablets

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Post by muse900 »

__sr__ wrote: post #12

Good riddance! It’s not like they have actively been developing Android to support tablets. In fact, it is the other way around. The older versions had better support for tablets. Even Nexus 9 was a half hearted attempt at best — and the rest is history. Google’s lack of interest in nowhere more evident than their own apps — many of them were just scaled versions of phone apps. And if Google is not bothering to optim…

I agree. 1st table I ever owned was a Nexus 7. I bought it because I was very satisfied with Nexus 5 being my phone (price and stability).

The thing that annoyed me the most about Nexus 7 apart from lacking on basic things was its sound... I'd go in an airplane and I wouldn't be able to hear anything. After that I never bought a Nexus product again, and tbh I don't feel left out of anything.

Re: Google quits selling tablets

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Post by towb »

chimeracoder wrote: post #151
shasheene wrote: post #20

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Samsung Chromebook Plus satisfies my needs for a tablet: mainly media consumption (web browsing, YouTube, reading long articles, and watching movies). 1. Incredibly nice screen 2. Gets security updates (ChromeOS devices are great for this compared to the dumpster fire that is Android security) 3. Haven't had any issues with Android support (I use mainly apps like RBDigital, Instapaper, Wikipedia) 4. Works well for mo…

> Samsung Chromebook Plus satisfies my needs for a tablet: mainly media consumption (web browsing, YouTube, reading long articles, and watching movies). I have a Samsung Chromebook Plus, and I absolutely despise it as a tablet. Compared to my Nexus 9 (which is still kicking), it's a far inferior device. My primary uses for my tablet are watching video and reading comics. It manages to fail at both of those two things…

I almost only use my Nexus 9 for Netflix/Plex in bed and a few ebooks now and then. Not sure I want to replace it with something that does more than that, buy some expensive replacement and still only end up doing the Netflix in bed thing would suck. I hope there still are some cheap (Xiaomi maybe?) tablets out there when that day comes.

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Post by jdietrich »

pjmlp wrote: post #169
shams93 wrote: post #161

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Chromeos with android is a lot more useful because you have full blown desktop chrome with chrome developer tools. The new chromeos devices have convertable touch screens and basically can function as tablets. But I own the new ipad because I don't have an iphone but still want my hands on these amazing Moog ios apps for my music. Android native is terrible for music, chrome browser itself has a much more highly deve…

Anyone serious about audio on Android needs to use the NDK APIs with OpenSL or the new AAudio, everything else is just pain.

Most Android devices aren't capable of truly low-latency audio (sub-10ms round-trip). This makes the total addressable market for pro audio apps very small, which means device manufacturers have little incentive to spend the engineering resources to provide low latency, which makes the total addressable market for pro audio apps very small.

Unless Google start setting audio latency requirements, it's a lost cause.

http://superpowered.com/latency

Re: Google quits selling tablets

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Post by Macha »

jimjimjim wrote: post #142

everytime there is a tablet article on hn i feel the need to ask if there is a replacement tablet at least as good as the nexus 7. mine is physically looking a bit rough these days and i'm worried what I can do if it finally breaks. 7inch tablets are the perfect size for reading ebooks on a train or in bed.

The old answer was the 8" Nvidia shield, which like the Nexus 7 is just better than most current android tablets. unfortunately that is also discontinued now.

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Post by wishinghand »

drak0n1c wrote: post #17
zdw wrote: post #11

The mid level tablet market died in a race to the bottom. Looking on aliexpress or taobao, you'll find dozens upon dozens of cheap tablets with CPU's from allwinner or rockchip, a few gigs of ram/flash and a not that great 8-10" screen for Completing against these are a few Samsung models that have their highly customized variant of Android, and Apple holding the premium ground with iOS/HW quality/price/performance,…

Apple's newest full form-factor iPad is only $300, and often is available on sale for ~$270. I think that's made a big difference.

When you say full form factor, do you mean something other than the 13”? That model is $800 at the cheapest.

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Post by tragic »

jdietrich wrote: post #193
pjmlp wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone serious about audio on Android needs to use the NDK APIs with OpenSL or the new AAudio, everything else is just pain.

Most Android devices aren't capable of truly low-latency audio (sub-10ms round-trip). This makes the total addressable market for pro audio apps very small, which means device manufacturers have little incentive to spend the engineering resources to provide low latency, which makes the total addressable market for pro audio apps very small. Unless Google start setting audio latency requirements, it's a lost cause. ht…

It's a real shame for bedroom producers like me, I've got a disposable income but not a spare grand for an iPad pro (plus I'm an apple anti-fan :-D ).

If Google had sorted out the audio story earlier, you might still have had problems with commodity tablets, but it might have been worth somebody's while to make a tablet specifically for audio and midi. It wouldn't be a million miles away from Maschine or something like that. But I fear the opportunity's gone now, and Android tablets are just a write off.

I still have my Nexus 7 which I basically use as a Kindle.

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Post by opless »

djrogers wrote: post #64
akhilcacharya wrote: post #56

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I agree completely! I've been thinking about why the rise of the ultra-cheap Fire tablets haven't created a new maker revolution so to speak. They can be had for cheaper than the RPi for Black Friday with a built in screen!

Well it’s not as if Amazon lets you hack around around on them or side load apps - you’re stuck with the Amazon store unless you try a dodgy exploit based unlocking method - which leaves you with a questionable tablet.

* looks at nexus 7 with play store on it *

Seemed fairly easy and - importantly reversable.

Okay, google mail doesn't work - but I can almost forgive that.

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Post by Brakenshire »

imtringued wrote: post #186
esturk wrote: post #79

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It's only a matter of time for the convergence of phones and Dex like docking functionality. I'm actually surprised Google isn't exploring this area more because it will really kick up the versality of phones. I guess Google doesn't want phones to cannabalize their Chromebook marketshare.

Phones aren't built for active cooling. Google maps turns my phone into a blowtorch after 30 minutes of usage.

Phones should have a thermal output port just like they have I/O ports.

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Post by pjmlp »

jdietrich wrote: post #193
pjmlp wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone serious about audio on Android needs to use the NDK APIs with OpenSL or the new AAudio, everything else is just pain.

Most Android devices aren't capable of truly low-latency audio (sub-10ms round-trip). This makes the total addressable market for pro audio apps very small, which means device manufacturers have little incentive to spend the engineering resources to provide low latency, which makes the total addressable market for pro audio apps very small. Unless Google start setting audio latency requirements, it's a lost cause. ht…

Those requirements do exist, but only for Android 8 devices, which aren't that many.

Otherwise only Samsung devices are usable, with their own real time audio SDK.

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