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It does do that.
No it doesn't. Newsworthy information is an explicit exception listed in Article 17, and so is free speech.
Who decides newsworthy? Their subscriber list is newsworthy if they deem it so.
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When can Congress pass a law requiring newspapers to delete information it has collected about somebody?
I think you're conflating GDPR with other laws. GDPR isn't about editorial content, it's about data you collect on your users.
Which is information you might want to keep and share. So that you can talk about people.
Example: if I want to say Brian accessed my website last Thursday.
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Part of free speech is being able to gather and record information. Observation.
The press can do that... that's allowed. I'm not sure your really have a good grasp on what any of these laws actually do, let alone 'free speech'. You keep alluding to complications that don't exist and don't explain what you're talking about.
If the GDPR didn't affect press freedom, the USA Today wouldn't be serving a different version of its website to EU users.
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I used to think more like this. Then when I thought about it I decided that essentially all “ownership” rights are like this. Intellectual property and physical property laws are artificial. There is no basic right, they are all rights created where “none exist”. They can be useful though, and part of how we decide what kind of society we want to create. Seems like Europe has decided that privacy and control of data…
I 100% agree. The problem is that practically rights have to be reasonably respectable (able to be respected) by people at little cost to them. Like, it's not difficult for me to not steal something from you. Erasing everything I ever wrote down about you is difficult. But also: > Seems like Europe has decided that privacy and control of data personal data is something they want. The problem here is that governments…
Your statement makes it sound like the GDPR applies to individuals doing everyday activities (or draws an equivalence). Just for clarity, I looked it up and it doesn’t appear to:
“This Regulation does not apply to the processing of personal data: (...) by a natural person in the course of a purely personal or household activity;"
So, it really only applies to companies, or if you’re processing a large amount of user data for a hobby project.
That being the case, it doesn’t feel like the bar to being able to respect the law is so very high. But I’d be interested in counter examples.
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No it doesn't. Newsworthy information is an explicit exception listed in Article 17, and so is free speech.
Who decides newsworthy? Their subscriber list is newsworthy if they deem it so.
First, the company decides whether the request needs to be complied with or not, and if the user doesn't like that decision, they can complain to the regulators who may choose whether the refusal is worth looking into.
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Considering that these rules don’t apply to governments, and that European governments generally seem to be slipping towards jailing people for thought crime, I’m skeptical as to how serious they are about privacy and control of personal data.
Please if you can, give one example of a European government jailing someone for a thought crime. To save us both time and aggravation please keep the actual definition of “thought crime” in mind, and don’t conflate it with something people actually did .
US has absolute free speech. Being from Europe, I tend to disagree with this form, as I believe meaningful free speech is precious, and we shouldn't allow some right wing extremists to take advantage and ruin it by using it as an excuse for hateful language that contributes precisely nothing to political debate.
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I think you're conflating GDPR with other laws. GDPR isn't about editorial content, it's about data you collect on your users.
Which is information you might want to keep and share. So that you can talk about people. Example: if I want to say Brian accessed my website last Thursday.
You can do journalism about Brian specifically, but you can't preemptively store information about everybody just in case.
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The press can do that... that's allowed. I'm not sure your really have a good grasp on what any of these laws actually do, let alone 'free speech'. You keep alluding to complications that don't exist and don't explain what you're talking about.
If the GDPR didn't affect press freedom, the USA Today wouldn't be serving a different version of its website to EU users.
Have you considered that USA Today doesn't have an exquisite understanding of the law?
Or perhaps, that USA Today is collecting tracking data on its users and selling it secretly to 3rd parties and doesn't want to stop spying?
Plenty of other newspapers have had no problem implementing GDPR. It's as simple as not spying on your users.
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The press can do that... that's allowed. I'm not sure your really have a good grasp on what any of these laws actually do, let alone 'free speech'. You keep alluding to complications that don't exist and don't explain what you're talking about.
If the GDPR didn't affect press freedom, the USA Today wouldn't be serving a different version of its website to EU users.
I think you should look into the differences and think critically about why there are differences.
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The press can do that... that's allowed. I'm not sure your really have a good grasp on what any of these laws actually do, let alone 'free speech'. You keep alluding to complications that don't exist and don't explain what you're talking about.
If the GDPR didn't affect press freedom, the USA Today wouldn't be serving a different version of its website to EU users.
They're serving the same articles.
For "press freedom" defined as the writing and publishing of articles, it's unaffected.
For "press freedom" defined as literally any action a member of the press takes, sure it's affected, but that's a very flawed definition. It's not like drunk driving laws are an infringement on "press freedom", even though they occasionally affect members of the press.