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Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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post #146

The reason I won’t go for a subscription is because I don’t want to find myself locked out of my password manager if I stop paying the subscription. With IntelliJ (JetBrains) I get perpetual fallback and that makes me super comfortable with a subscription model. Will AgileBits offer perpetual fallback? I doubt it. Their product works well but their marketing team are a let down.

Thank you for this comment. JetBrains subscription also drops in price over time to reward you for continued patronage. It's the only subscription model i've ever been comfortable with.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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post #33

With all these subscription-only apps that are proliferating, I am curious how many enterprising app developers would be interested in making and marketing "cloudless" apps that rely on up-front high prices for revenue, but neverending free updates (mostly bug fixes, I would hope). With GDPR, this seems like it would be actually be easier to deliver. Of course growth numbers may suck, given how hard it is to make it…

> budget tracking

You might want to check this out too: https://github.com/firefly-iii/firefly-iii#introduction

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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I would be okay with the subscription plan if they would allow for a permanent license after the subscription ends. Something like what JetBrains did. I was going to drop using JB software until they added that feature, and now I am a happy ”subscriber.” I feel what galls people is that we buyers have nothing to show after ending a subscription, especially if we are not using anything “servicey” about said subscripti…

You can just buy a license to 1Password whenever you want, though... it’s not subscription only.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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So, I'll join the chorus here by saying that I've picked up the subscription fee. I've been using their software daily for over three years. During that time, they have consistently improved their product and have been open about issues (as far as I am concerned). I was a little irked when I saw the subscription model. I was like, "hey, I paid for this." So, I looked up how much I paid in licenses by looking them up.…

As time goes on, I've gotten less and less comfortable using proprietary software for critical tasks. If 1Password were open source, I'd actually be pretty happy to subscribe. But as it stands, I have no faith that the product won't change out from under me in the future, whether due to a pivot, an acquisition, or some other reason. The incentives align in favor of the business, not the customer. IMHO, subscriptions…

For me, something related: can I remove the data in a usable form? 1Password makes that easy, so like others here, I'm happy to pay them to perform the 'eternal vigilance' that secret-keeping entails.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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post #105
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this supposed to be a rebuttal to something or do you actually need help finding it?

I'm interested in where it is. I have recommended 1Password to friends saying that I had heard standalone version was still available, but I am unable to find it on their site.

The blog entry even states, “While still tough, this decision was easier to make as people looking for licenses will be able to download 1Password 7 directly from our website. I know this isn’t ideal for those who love the Mac App Store and prefer to purchase standalone licenses and I apologize for that. But overall I believe this was the correct decision to make.”

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There are at least two elements to software maintenance: one is adding truly new features, and the other is making stupid changes just to keep old features working as they always did (often due to platform or hardware changes, especially with Apple!). I'm OK with the model that VMware is using, at least on the Mac. You buy version X, you have version X. Version X gets updates for some amount of time. Eventually, a…

I like that model, too, but at least for something like 1Password I can see two issues. You'll have people using older versions with possible security vulnerabilities. If you're using hosted passwords you have to deal with dealing with multiple versions of the client indefinitely (although, you'll probably have to deal with a bit of that anyway)

When you include the hosting service, having a subscription (since you're providing an ongoing service) makes perfect sense. In this case, so does also forcing the current version.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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So, I'll join the chorus here by saying that I've picked up the subscription fee. I've been using their software daily for over three years. During that time, they have consistently improved their product and have been open about issues (as far as I am concerned). I was a little irked when I saw the subscription model. I was like, "hey, I paid for this." So, I looked up how much I paid in licenses by looking them up.…

Is it possible to pay for a subscription and use a local vault?

I've no problem with the business model, but I'd rather keep the data to myself.

Edit: Answered my own question

> 1Password 7 from the Mac App Store will only support our hosted service, as that’s what you’re purchasing with a 1Password membership. If you install from our website, you’ll have to option to use a standalone vault synced via iCloud if you purchase a standalone license, or use our hosted service if you purchase a 1Password membership.

Re: Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store

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post #5

I have been using Bitwarden for some time now. It’s an open source password manager. There are apps for all major platforms and extensions to all major browsers. Checkout https://bitwarden.com/

Looks awesome. The only drawback i see is it doesn't support iCloud.

Personally i wouldn't want to store my passwords with the same company that creates the (encryption)software.

And i definitely wouldn't self-host (why burden yourself with the management of data-backups/updates/etc. when iCloud is available for free...)

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