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post #188

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I have been to China three times, for a total of about a year spent there thank you very much. I come from an English spring country but have spent extensive time in various other countries where I have family. Thanks for being a total dick whilst knowing nothing about me. That being irrelevant though I suggest you re-read the post I was replying to. And then the honourable thing to do would be apologise to me.

>I have literally never seen this. I was responding to this part. I apologize that my comment was poorly worded and I'll admit slightly obnoxious. Still I am surprised that you never noticed, during your visits to China, the degree to which they wish China would be the one that takes over US as the superpower of the world. When I have been there it has never been hidden, but then I tend to get down into the culture r…

> Still I am surprised that you never noticed, during your visits to China... (snip)

I’ve made exactly zero comment on what I’ve observed anywhere but HN. Please for the love of god stop assuming what I’ve seen/haven’t seen unless I say it.

That said, yes I’ve noticed people in China are favourable to a world with Chinese hegemony as a superpower. That’s not surprising is it? I’ve noticed in America there is a favourable sentiment in general to the status quo - American superpower hegemony.

Thank you for your apology and I do accept it. It is difficult sometimes on the internet and in real life to make sure you’re responding to what the person said/means and not what you imagine them to mean. We can all try to better understand others rather than talk at them.

Re: China’s experiment in ranking and monitoring citizens has started

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post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I have literally never seen this. I was responding to this part. I apologize that my comment was poorly worded and I'll admit slightly obnoxious. Still I am surprised that you never noticed, during your visits to China, the degree to which they wish China would be the one that takes over US as the superpower of the world. When I have been there it has never been hidden, but then I tend to get down into the culture r…

> Still I am surprised that you never noticed, during your visits to China... (snip) I’ve made exactly zero comment on what I’ve observed anywhere but HN. Please for the love of god stop assuming what I’ve seen/haven’t seen unless I say it. That said, yes I’ve noticed people in China are favourable to a world with Chinese hegemony as a superpower. That’s not surprising is it? I’ve noticed in America there is a favour…

Point (well, points) taken. Thanks for the clarification, which I admit I should have been able to read from your original parent's wording.

Re: China’s experiment in ranking and monitoring citizens has started

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>States would not have become a superpower, because they did not win the most wars, nor did they murder the most people, at the end of World War 2, when they gained superpower status. The US suffered less casualties than all the other major powers (USSR, China, Germany, Poland, Japan, France, Italy, UK) in WW2 and their infrastructure was not destroyed. So kill/death ratio and net destruction are quite indicative of…

>The US suffered less casualties than all the other major powers (USSR, China, Germany, Poland, Japan, France, Italy, UK) in WW2 and their infrastructure was not destroyed. So kill/death ratio and net destruction are quite indicative of the outcome. You're moving the goalposts now. Your earlier comment claimed the method for becoming a superpower was to "participate in the most wars and murder the most people." The n…

>Your earlier comment claimed the method for becoming a superpower was to "participate in the most wars and murder the most people." The number of casualties or infrastructure damage relative to the rest of the world shouldn't matter

Please re-read what I actually said. You've blatantly misquoted me. A keyword which you conveniently ignored is wins.

>You're hedging your bets with the weasel terms "large scale" and "longest lasting"

Is scalability not a prerequisite to becoming a global scale superpower?

>the point is that the US didn't achieve superpower status through success at mass murder

Are you honestly implying the US' success at mass murder is unrelated to their becoming a superpower?

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