Live data from Hacker News

In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

nytimes.com

191–200 of 222 posts

Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

#191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try to avoid getting so offended over the comment - to anyone living outside the US, the phrase "only in America" is extremely commonplace.

>It means something is so ridiculous, it could only happen in America. An exaggeration in itself but then you go on to support it with claims that are either entirely false or orthogonal to the point. So I corrected you. Yet somehow I'm supposed to be "offended". Since you are so good at internet psychiatry, here's another word for you. Projection.

You do come across as offended / upset

Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

#192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try to avoid getting so offended over the comment - to anyone living outside the US, the phrase "only in America" is extremely commonplace.

>It means something is so ridiculous, it could only happen in America. An exaggeration in itself but then you go on to support it with claims that are either entirely false or orthogonal to the point. So I corrected you. Yet somehow I'm supposed to be "offended". Since you are so good at internet psychiatry, here's another word for you. Projection.

It was the quick succession of more than a few rapid edits over the course of several minutes that made me feel that you're over-reacting to the comment.

- Its weird everywhere else in the world to sell firearms in the same store as kids toys, milk and cheese. Weird.

- Gallon cups have indeed existed in promotions at various fast food outlets in the US, maybe not McDonalds I suppose.

- It's extremely rare to have people pull away from a bowser without checking the hose has been put away when you aren't pre-paying for fuel (i.e. many places around the world). However almost every image and video of it posted to car forums etc are from the United States.

- The US government is perceived as corrupt to many people in many nations, and the current office is making that perception greater. That is why people can accept that this level of corruption in Baltimore has happened.

But these were just lighthearted examples, and I digress.

Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

#193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It means something is so ridiculous, it could only happen in America. An exaggeration in itself but then you go on to support it with claims that are either entirely false or orthogonal to the point. So I corrected you. Yet somehow I'm supposed to be "offended". Since you are so good at internet psychiatry, here's another word for you. Projection.

It was the quick succession of more than a few rapid edits over the course of several minutes that made me feel that you're over-reacting to the comment. - Its weird everywhere else in the world to sell firearms in the same store as kids toys, milk and cheese. Weird . - Gallon cups have indeed existed in promotions at various fast food outlets in the US, maybe not McDonalds I suppose. - It's extremely rare to have pe…

>It was the quick succession of more than a few rapid edits over the course of several minutes that made me feel that you're over-reacting to the comment.

That's a bizarre conclusion but whatever.

>- Its weird everywhere else in the world to sell firearms in the same store as kids toys, milk and cheese. Weird.

It's a giant department store. They sell everything. By saying it is weird, you are projecting your own biases.

>- Gallon cups have indeed existed in promotions at various fast food outlets in the US, maybe not McDonalds I suppose.

Yeah. Not McDonald's. It's almost like I said that. I also have never seen any fast food restaurant with any promotional cup size approaching anything near a gallon.

>- It's extremely rare to have people pull away from a bowser without checking the hose has been put away when you aren't pre-paying for fuel (i.e. many places around the world). However almost every image and video of it posted to car forums etc are from the United States.

Oh you saw it in some pictures in a car forum? Well I guess that settles it then.

>- The US government is perceived as corrupt to many people in many nations, and the current office is making that perception greater. That is why people can accept that this level of corruption in Baltimore has happened.

Yet the link I posted shows the US, like I said, to be perceived as less corrupt than, e.g., France. And Spain. And Japan. And Portugal. And on and on.

>But these were just lighthearted examples, and I digress.

You aren't being "lighthearted" any more than the people you are parroting who originally made these comments were. You are spreading lies and being hateful. You think you are better than "those people" in America so you spew your hatred on the internet. Except most of what you say is false or based on some other crap you, wait for it, read on the internet.

To the downvoters: I'm just devastated you took some of my internet points away. But thanks for reminding me I'm on r/hackernews. Nice "rebuttal"

Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

#194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It means something is so ridiculous, it could only happen in America. An exaggeration in itself but then you go on to support it with claims that are either entirely false or orthogonal to the point. So I corrected you. Yet somehow I'm supposed to be "offended". Since you are so good at internet psychiatry, here's another word for you. Projection.

You do come across as offended / upset

You must be offended since you took the time to butt into somebody else's conversation without adding a single thing to it but a pseudo-insult.

Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

#195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do come across as offended / upset

You must be offended since you took the time to butt into somebody else's conversation without adding a single thing to it but a pseudo-insult.

You're just confirming what they already said.

Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

#196
Police follow a code that is not unlike that followed by groups that they have legal authority over. When one officer refuses to be an accomplice to a crime committed by another officer, the officer is culturally pressured not to act in a way that would attack the offending officer. One reason for this is you ought not throw stones when you live in a glass house. Officers commit crimes for all sorts of reasons: mistakes, shortcuts, aggression, revenge. Further, if officers blew the whistle on each other for every matter, the culture would turn to disrespect and distrust among those whose lives depend on each other.

So, Baltimore ends up with much greater problems as smaller ones snow ball.

Body cameras are helping to distance officers from hurting their team but they're not being managed in a way that will ensure integrity. The fox can't guard the hen house. Police control when the cameras are on, they control the recordings, and they control who reviews the recordings.

I might as well add that Trump is in the process of creating this culture among the branches of government. Smaller problems won't be reported. Much greater problems will eventually emerge. Everyone will ask how this could ever happen. A political savior will swoop in and reform.

Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

#197

Funny, I started watching The Wire 2 days ago. Judging by this piece, it seems the claims to unflinching realism are warranted.

Keep at it even if you think you're bored a few episodes in.

I'm not, I'm loving it so far.

Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

#198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was the quick succession of more than a few rapid edits over the course of several minutes that made me feel that you're over-reacting to the comment. - Its weird everywhere else in the world to sell firearms in the same store as kids toys, milk and cheese. Weird . - Gallon cups have indeed existed in promotions at various fast food outlets in the US, maybe not McDonalds I suppose. - It's extremely rare to have pe…

>It was the quick succession of more than a few rapid edits over the course of several minutes that made me feel that you're over-reacting to the comment. That's a bizarre conclusion but whatever. >- Its weird everywhere else in the world to sell firearms in the same store as kids toys, milk and cheese. Weird. It's a giant department store. They sell everything. By saying it is weird, you are projecting your own bias…

Nitpicking the size of sodas at fast food restaurants when you know they're stupidly big >

Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

#199

Why is there not more transparency? It makes zero sense. What is going to stop something like this occuring again? Officers going to jail?

Problem is partly that crime is pretty bad in Baltimore and tax base doesn’t help combat it. Officers are constantly having to bend the rules to make any impact. Slippery slope into bad behavior. Also, few well trained and talented police officers want to work in such an environment due to personal risk and stress. The few that do want to be rewarded for the hell they go through. There is another side to this story,…

Inequality puts more pressure on police/creates much more work for police. People don't mention that enough.

Re: In Baltimore, Brazen Officers Took Every Chance to Rob and Cheat

#200

The article doesn't mention how Detective Sean Suiter was shot in the head the day before he was to testify for the grand jury against the task force officers. FWIW, this was not news to the residents of Baltimore. They have been talking about this for over 25 years. Anyone who listened could hear about it. Nobody really gave a shit. A friend of mine grew up in East Baltimore. They would sit outside on their stoop, b…

>A friend of mine grew up in East Baltimore. They would sit outside on their stoop, because the parents didn't want them inside, and there was no place to play outside other than in the street - no playgrounds, no trees, no parks, no back yards. Sometimes cops would roll up on their corner, get out, and question them about what they were doing. "We're sitting." They were told to empty their pockets. If they had any m…

In case anyone is curious, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/04/30/balti... appears to be the source (or something similar) for the final sentence.
Post reply on HN