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Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by twobyfour » Fri, Jan 19, 2018, 11:43 PM UTC

philipwhiuk wrote: post #176

twobyfour wrote: post #100

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Right, obviously they're not going to be in the New World. The question is why those countries, of all the ones in the Old World? There's very little in France, the UK, Norway, Albania, India, Syria, and a heck of a lot of other places with thousands of years of history.

> France Two total wars (WW1 and WW2, plus numerous other invasions and revolutions). > the UK, has 10 of the list, not sure how many you're expecting > Norway, Population only 5 million. Considerable famine in 1690s. > Albania Italian occupation in WW2. > India British occupation > Syria French then British occupation, then Ba'ath, with coups. > and a heck of a lot of other places with thousands of years of history.…

But by that logic, Germany makes zero sense.

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by pera » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 12:22 AM UTC

ac29 wrote: post #111

pera wrote: post #56

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Weihenstephaner's hefeweizen is my favorite beer of all times. It's quite difficult to find here in Seattle, but I guess that makes it more special :)

Doesn't seem that uncommon around Seattle: https://www.weihenstephaner.com/product-finder/

It looks outdated, or at least for the three bars that are close to my place :(

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by djsumdog » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 12:54 AM UTC

mrweasel wrote: post #112

tobinfricke wrote: post #79

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* Loads instantly * Provides all relevant information at a glance Needs more Javascript?

And doesn't work as they intended, the links behind the picture isn't actually click-able.

Yea, same here on Vivaldi. It probably looks correct in Netscape Navigator.

Sites like this are pretty cool to stumble upon though. They are a snapshot in time. It's not even /that/ old. It takes you back to a simpler era where pages loaded on dialup.

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by emmelaich » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 1:12 AM UTC

navidfarhadi wrote: post #33

Fenrisulfr wrote: post #30

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Amazing beer, agreed. Another recommendation: My favorite Munich-style weiss beer is from Franziskaner (founded in 1363). It's in my top 3 beers of all time.

Franziskaner weissbier is also one of my favorites, right up there with Weihenstephaner hefeweissbier. Both are top 5 German beers in my book for sure. They are both extremely easy to find in California (SF Bay Area) as well, which is great!

I rate the the Schöfferhofer above the Franziskaner. But only just.

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by krsdcbl » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 1:20 AM UTC

alangibson wrote: post #42

Hirter beer still sucks, even if it has been around since 1270.

Funny, i actually really like Hirter - specially their more traditional red beers

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by byproxy » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 1:41 AM UTC

navidfarhadi wrote: post #26

The oldest name on this list that stood out to me is Weihenstephan brewery, founded in 1040 in Bavaria, Germany. They have some of the finest lagers I have ever tried. If you enjoy crisp, refreshing lager beers, I highly recommend their beers. My favorite one is probably the Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier, followed by the Hefeweissbier Dunkel. Note: I am not affiliated in any way with the company, I just highly enjoy…

Good beer! And pretty decently priced (in my parts, at least). ~$3.50 for a pint, if you can find it at a liquor store.

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by jcadam » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 2:20 AM UTC

geofft wrote: post #16

Wow, this web page looks like it hasn't been updated since 1439: http://www.luebeckaltstadthotel.de/

Couldn't resist a look at the page source. Absolutely no javascript.

Oh, and:

Nice :)

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by arduanika » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 3:37 AM UTC

rurban wrote: post #145

ViktorV wrote: post #129

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I suppose that the company has to be functioning in the present too.

Yes, that's the purpose. Oldest still existing companies. But I didn't like that the biggest ones, bigger than today's Amazon or Google are not in it.

I suppose that the company has to be old too

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by culot » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 4:34 AM UTC

tobinfricke wrote: post #79

geofft wrote: post #16

Wow, this web page looks like it hasn't been updated since 1439: http://www.luebeckaltstadthotel.de/

* Loads instantly * Provides all relevant information at a glance Needs more Javascript?

* Difficult to read

* Ugly as heck

Re: List of oldest companies: Before 1300

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Post by jdietrich » Sat, Jan 20, 2018, 4:52 AM UTC

twobyfour wrote: post #93

The older tiers of this list seem to be heavily dominated by Japan, Germany, and Switzerland. Is that reflective of something other than the demographics of non-"New World" contributors to Wikipedia?

It's mostly about continuity of records and property rights. Most countries a) didn't have written records of ownership until relatively recently, b) had a collapse of government that led to the loss of records or c) had a revolution that involved mass confiscation or redistribution of property.

Japan, Germany and Switzerland have been efficient bureaucracies since time immemorial. They've had brief periods of trauma, but they haven't experienced an upheaval with the profound and lasting impact of something like the Russian revolution, the Great Leap Forward or the British Raj.

They are also cultures that highly value economic stability and family ownership, although I think this is a secondary factor. I have no doubt that there are huge numbers of family-owned businesses that would be on this list, but for the fact that no records exist to demonstrate their age.